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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    And the previous FF was a collosal stellar hit that did not require a total rewrite in order to untarnish the franchise, right? But by all means, keep saying stuff like this until it's just you and a few people left. Shall I start naming all the other failed MMOs that had devs/fans making the same excuses over and over? I can, the list is quite lengthy though!

    Here's the thing, many people have made some rather constructive/well thought out posts yet the white knights ride in on their high horses flaming away. Horray?
    Well seeing as I was talking about FFXI, no it didn't ever get a complete rewrite, it's the most profitable FF in history and has been going for 11 years now so yeah as you call it "The previous FF" cannot be called a failure, if anything the more recent changes have drawn a lot of people away (designed to evolve with the market and cater to the current MMO crowd.)

    I have honestly seen no one saying they have full coil gear and completed all turns, they will rather spam AK and WP all day and complain there's nothing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    I would honestly love to see some people who post on here playing old school (75 cap) FFXI, one year+ of grinding to obtain one piece of gear, yep it happened
    Took me nine months to finally get V.Bow. I camped it at least 5 days a week for 3-4 hours (sometimes up to 12-18 hours) each day. I will never /toss that shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Took me nine months to finally get V.Bow. I camped it at least 5 days a week for 3-4 hours (sometimes up to 12-18 hours) each day. I will never /toss that shit.
    It took me over 1 year to farm my Serket Ring in FFXI, down to bad luck, bots, lost pop windows etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    It took me over 1 year to farm my Serket Ring in FFXI, down to bad luck, bots, lost pop windows etc etc.
    And people sit here and whine about not being able to gear up in a few months. I would love to see some of these people in a large LS grinding Limbus for Homam back in the day or waiting for W.Legs from Kirin... fucking lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    If you think ARR was made from scratch, then yes, I'm sorry to say that you are deluded. I don't feel one way or another about saying so.

    from scratch
    (idiomatic) From the beginning; starting with no advantage or prior preparation.
    Let aside having Designs ( on Paper ) and Outlines from FFXIV 1.0, ARR was made from Scratch which was confirmed many times allready. They could not take over Models, they had to remake them. They could not take over Environment, they had to remake them. They could not take over the UI/Mechanics, they had to remake them and so on... and so on.

    If you call everyone "deluded" who does believe ARR is a "new" Game, then go ahead and tell how and what exactly SE took over from 1.0, which they did not have to change or could take over without adjustments or further coding. You are saying that ARR is not a "new" Game, because it has similiar mechanics to 1.0 as in Ifrit Mechanics. This is just showing that you have no Idea about Coding at all.

    SE did not use the Source-Code from 1.0, they had to rewrite the whole Code or they could have not implemented the Systems we currently have. Ifrit of course does have similiar mechanics, since there is no point in changing the fights 100% around. Regardless of that the Code for the Mechanics is new, all you are refering to is the "visual aspect" of what you see on your screen, which is poor delusional reasoning.
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    Last edited by Nero; 10-22-2013 at 09:13 PM.

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    How many people here would log in regularly once you have AF +1 or Allaghan geared every DoW or DoM of interest (or beyond) and completed Coil for the week?

    On another note, folks here have a knack for misinterpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    It's not a matter of opinion.

    http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-...al+fantasy+xiv

    FFXIV was released in September of 2010. ARR is called 2.0 only because 1.0 came before it. Get it?



    So you're saying that ARR is a completely brand new game, aside from the multitude of areas that are inconvenient to your point?

    k.

    Anyone who thinks that ARR was made from scratch is completely and hopelessly deluded. Period, the end.
    By your standard, pretty much everything is the same, nothing is new.

    - Windows 95 to Windows 7 are all the same.
    - All the Porche 911s are the same.
    - So are all the Android phones and iPhones. Actually all the phones are the same, they all use the number pad lol.
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    Just to get terms out of the way because it looks like a petty argument here.

    ARR is in fact a new game. Did it come completely from scratch? Most of it yes, but it did use things from 1.xx such as character models, certain music, certain areas stayed intact (3 major city states), and lore. You cannot say it was 100% made from scratch. However, it is a new game in the fact that 1.xx does not exist anymore and we are on a new client with a new graphics engine with a complete revamp of how the concepts of the game work. On a technical basis it is a new game.

    Also, most MMO's have some form of lockouts to make sure you are not spamming the content and getting everything in a short time, its simply bad for business. Even FFXI had lockout timers and ways for you to not simply spam content. Welcome to the MMO world people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    And people sit here and whine about not being able to gear up in a few months. I would love to see some of these people in a large LS grinding Limbus for Homam back in the day or waiting for W.Legs from Kirin... fucking lol
    Good times
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    this person is a fag ---v

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    Going to say NOPE, Here is why.
    Currently there is enough issue getting into these places we don't need more people crowding the servers.

    Also, this is the gating to make sure people don't get to far ahead. It's fair for everyone.
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