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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Do people seriously think BRD is not OP as it stands? A class that can avoid the majority of mechanics without a single bit of loss in DPS?

    They are in-need of cast time/channelled abilities.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Do people seriously think BRD is not OP as it stands? A class that can avoid the majority of mechanics without a single bit of loss in DPS?

    They are in-need of cast time/channelled abilities.
    We lose 20% of our power while a song is on. Meaning our DPS drops LOWER than the other classes in most endgame content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    We lose 20% of our power while a song is on. Meaning our DPS drops LOWER than the other classes in most endgame content.
    You do realise that's why EVERY raid group takes at least 1 BRD right, for your songs? So that's not a negative point at all.

    Main problem is, that unlike the other Ranged classes who can avoid a lot of mechanics as is simply due to the fact they are ranged are penalised when moving. BRDs have no penalty for moving, meaning they can avoid the majority of mechanics with ease and keep 100% uptime on their DPS.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-20-2013 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    You do realise that's why EVERY raid group takes at least 1 BRD right, for your songs? So that's not a negative point at all.

    Main problem is, that unlike the other Ranged classes who can avoid a lot of mechanics as is simply due to the fact they are ranged are penalised when moving. BRDs have no penalty for moving, meaning they can avoid the majority of mechanics with ease and keep 100% uptime on their DPS.
    And still those other ranged classes are parsing far more than bard even when they have to move.

    Seriously, show me one single Coil fight where bard is top dps and i'll be fine with whatever nerf is coming
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    "Coil, coil, coil, coil..."

    That is one dungeon. By using that as an example you're not saying that Bards don't need to be nerfed, but rather that Bard endgame equipment needs to be buffed, which sounds like the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    And still those other ranged classes are parsing far more than bard even when they have to move.

    Seriously, show me one single Coil fight where bard is top dps and i'll be fine with whatever nerf is coming
    BRDs aren't a DPS class. They shouldn't be anywhere near anyone else in terms of DPS. Their main use is their songs. The fact that they can put out reasonable DPS with 100% uptime with absolute mechanic avoidance is INSANE.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-20-2013 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    BRDs aren't a DPS class. They shouldn't be anywhere near anyone else in terms of DPS. Their main use is their songs. The fact that they can put out reasonable DPS with 100% uptime with absolute mechanic avoidance is INSANE.
    BRD is a DPS class. I have no idea where you're getting this from. It queues as a DPS and all the gear they get enhances their DPS. There are no stats that enhance song range, accuracy or potency on any of their AF/relic/allagan gear, not even piety. They're DPS, and they're not even that great...
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    BRDs aren't a DPS class........

    No. They totally are, you are just trying to make the game into what you want it to be.
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    Bards, nerfs and stuff.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-20-2013 at 05:11 PM.

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    Leonas Dias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Do people seriously think BRD is not OP as it stands? A class that can avoid the majority of mechanics without a single bit of loss in DPS?
    See thats the kicker. Alot of people here are defending BRD as the worst DD class based on spreadsheet dps from stand still fights or even wooden dummies. Sure, MNKs will get some pretty nice damage when they're not running everywhere and avoiding as much as possible. But a majority of fights are based around mobility atm, so in practical damage output BRD is really up there.
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

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