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  1. #61
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    PessimiStick's Avatar
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    Ippon Seionage
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    Gladiator Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Derza View Post
    Also Stoneskin becomes better on a pld if they use any mitigation CD - the only way for warriors to make the stoneskin better is if they use thrill of battle BEFORE stoneskin is casted.
    It's better on a PLD even if they don't pop a CD since they can block.
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  2. #62
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    Layla Bell
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    Marauder Lv 100
    There is nothing Paladin/Warrior does better than Paladin/Paladin but Paladin/Warrior can clear any and all content currently in the game. Period.

    Sincerely, everyone doing turn 5.

    edit - Also, one of the reasons you get so many one line responses to this thread is that it has been beaten to death extensively in many threads already. People are kind of tired of the same song. Mathematically, warriors have less eHP than paladins. Throw HG into the equation and kaboom.

    That being said, we still run a Warrior. No one says they aren't viable but to say there is no difference is just factually wrong.

    The future isn't all gloom though. You'll be able to debuff for all the sweet Samurais.
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    Last edited by klops; 10-19-2013 at 09:52 AM.
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  3. #63
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    MBTL90's Avatar
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    Kamahl Stormblessed
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    My favorite part of these threads is the special snowflake wars who come in and are all like, "People just don't get how to play wars because they are different than other tanks! Me on the other hand, I'm superior to all the other wars who did that math stuff, because you see I have a lot of health, and then sometimes I press inner beast to heal myself! Come on guys, wars are DD tanks!" It's especially funny because most of the people doing the heavy lifting in the math department (Kitru, Hachiko, others) are warriors themselves.
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  4. #64
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    Mushashi Miyamoto
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    ■ In Regards to WAR

    The Binding Coil of Bahamut
    Especially for Turn 1 and 4, strategies have been employed that the development team hadn't considered (such as only using paladins to live through multiple stacks of a buff the boss has), and a situation has developed where paladins are favored over warrior. We apologize for this. In patch 2.1 we will be making adjustments so that warriors can do the content that paladins can do.

    Adjustments to Stun
    A warrior’s stun is different than paladin’s in the sense that it can be used at any time separate from the global cooldown, which is an advantage, but for specific content where stuns need to performed multiple times or with precise timing, it’s difficult to utilize warrior’s stun, so we will be making adjustments in patch 2.1 to improve its usability.

    We also plan for a variety of other adjustments for warrior in patch 2.1.

    yoshi words,so change the title to pld is better
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    FFXIV is not programmed in Feels++. The game is math.
    This is perhaps my favorite quote on these forums.
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  6. #66
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by mushashi View Post
    yoshi words,so change the title to pld is better
    Where is this from? And that is awesome news - I'm excited to see what they come up with, and kind of bummed I spent 825 Mythos on AF2 chest if they make WARs competitive, because I'd rather play WAR lol.
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  7. #67
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    Nykona Sharrowkyn
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    OP how does the tears taste after Letter live?
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  8. #68
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    I use to be this naïve. But then I started doing math
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    I use to be this naïve. But then I started doing math
    or played the game for more than 49 levels.
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  10. #70
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    Rib Soul
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    It has been said before but i think it could be useful to repeat it : It's completely absurd to say "This class is better than this one" because the most important in a game is what you're feeling when you are playing. PLD may have better stats (or not), but that doesn't mean he's better, the only thing which is revealed is that he's maybe more efficient (at least, mathematically).

    Mathematical Efficience means to be the best ? Maybe that's the question to answer, the maths are objective, but the person who is playing is an human so maybe what we're calling "the skill" enter in action ? Don't you think so ?

    P.S : Sorry for my english, i'm french.
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