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    Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX just confirmed they intend to nerf BRD damage along side the Warrior buffs in 2.1

    So to put it simple congratulations, the endless tears of players that can't clear Titan have swayed the Devs into nerfing a class that consistently pulls 2nd to bottom DPS on high level coil parses with competent players. You may have perhaps caused a massive unneeded damage nerf to a useful role in raids.

    Discuss why people don't know what they are talking about and why I'm wrong.
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    I'm just happy for the warrior buffs.

    I've occasionally browsed the tanking forum and most of them have been very respectful and constructive in their reasoning for why warriors are not quite up to par.

    Hopefully I can finish my sim with damage numbers shortly and we can put this discussion to rest lol.
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    Is that the exact wording?

    Edit:

    We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight.
    NVM. This really sucks if it really does mean our damage is going to get nerfed.
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    Last edited by Ronove; 10-19-2013 at 11:04 PM.

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    Well, they did it. Garbage players got Bards nerfed. My heart goes out to all you bards. May god have mercy on your souls.
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    So to put it simple congratulations, the endless tears of players that can't clear Titan have swayed the Devs into nerfing a class that consistently pulls 2nd to bottom DPS on high level coil parses with competent players. You may have perhaps caused a massive unneeded damage nerf to a useful role in raids.
    I hope atleast now those players will be happy about it and don't aim for the next class to be nerfed becasue their digital phallus is still too small to compete
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapse View Post
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX just confirmed they intend to nerf BRD damage along side the Warrior buffs in 2.1

    So to put it simple congratulations, the endless tears of players that can't clear Titan have swayed the Devs into nerfing a class that consistently pulls 2nd to bottom DPS on high level coil parses with competent players. You may have perhaps caused a massive unneeded damage nerf to a useful role in raids.

    Discuss why people don't know what they are talking about and why I'm wrong.
    Uh, bards are also the only dps class that I've seen groups refuse to do a run without. They're support-dps, and their buffs are that important, losing dps won't throw you to the bottom of the rung.

    Also REinhardt's translations are awesome, but he's translating, transcribing, and rewording at live pace. It's rough work, i've done it, and naturally he loses nuance in the process. Yoshi P was put serious emphasis on "Just a -little- too strong", like, he used three different words to a little in that sentence. So the nerf will probably be light.

    So yea, you'll lose dps, but.. your utility still say you'll be taken anyhow.

    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    I'm just happy for the warrior buffs.

    I've occasionally browsed the tanking forum and most of them have been very respectful and constructive in their reasoning for why warriors are not quite up to par.

    Hopefully I can finish my sim with damage numbers shortly and we can put this discussion to rest lol.
    That made me laugh, "So, we said warriors are fine, and.. they are! but.. paladins are a bit too strong, like, they're completing content we didn't intend for them to be able to, in ways they're not supposed to... but instead of making the game hard by bringing them tow arrior level, we'll just adjust them a little and bring warriors up to par!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronove View Post
    Is that the exact wording?
    "Bards
    We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight."

    Was the cleaner English response in the Letter from the Producer Q&A Thread.

    However, I got a bit dirtier version while watching Twitch user Reinheartv translate the stream live, if you're interested in live updates from the rest you can watch both at the same time for visual and translation at this MultiTwitch.

    Basically they mentioned that they feel Bards are doing more damage than other classes while not having to worry about mechanics and can expect changes alongside Warriors and Dragoons.
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    The people calling for a bard nerf deserve a long slow clap. So shortsighted and misguided.

    Please call for a healer nerf next because they heal to well and in needs to be balanced... why in the world would you cry out for a team member to do LESS damage??

    and if someone even says well class stacking happens... YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THOSE GROUPS ANYWAY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapse View Post
    So to put it simple congratulations, the endless tears of players that can't clear Titan have swayed the Devs into nerfing a class that consistently pulls 2nd to bottom DPS on high level coil parses with competent players. You may have perhaps caused a massive unneeded damage nerf to a useful role in raids.
    I really can't say it any better than that. I knew it would happen eventually. My only hope is that it's a very minor change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapse View Post
    "Bards
    We currently feel that the bards are a little too strong due to the amount of damage they can do without being impacted that much from the fight."

    Was the cleaner English response in the Letter from the Producer Q&A Thread.
    It could also mean they are going to make Bards worry about mechanics and not necessarily nerf the damage. It'd be nice if they actually detailed how exactly they're going to change bards cause that line alone no matter cleanly translated or roughly translated is really vague.
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