Be brave

[darkstarpoet1]

I lie giddy at night thinking about the upcoming battle system revisions.

I love the direction Yoshida is bringing the game and I am in no way sad to see that Tanaka is no longer with us. With each change implemented I enjoy the game that much more.

Sure, I am a hardened ffxi veteran and there are those who flame based on the idea that this isn't ffxi-2 and anyone who loved it should just go back to the old game, but having played xi that doesn't exclude me from getting a say in what I want in ffxiv.

I never cared what critics and game reviewers wrote about games. They're all to often awfully theoretical and structurized in their approach while judging a game.

i care what everyone has said about the game including the trolls. each one of them has just as valid of an opinion of the game as we do here. the difference is we stayed to play so we found something good about the game even if it was only hope in the future.

[Kantide]

It's not about reviewers, its about players. I for one like the direction things are going. The team seems to have some work to do rebuilding the games foundation before any of the other things are taken care of.

[darkstarpoet1]

It's not about reviewers, its about players. I for one like the direction things are going. The team seems to have some work to do rebuilding the games foundation before any of the other things are taken care of.

would you agree the reviewers have a major impact of the amount of players a game has? if a game has horrible reviews the game is likely not going to attract many players. the majority of people i know always check reviews before they purchase a game unless it is a day 1 game purchase. if a game says 3/10 on the review sites across the board i do not waste time or money on the game unless it is one of the games i just have to try out.

[Spellbinder]

would you agree the reviewers have a major impact of the amount of players a game has? if a game has horrible reviews the game is likely not going to attract many players. the majority of people i know always check reviews before they purchase a game unless it is a day 1 game purchase. if a game says 3/10 on the review sites across the board i do not waste time or money on the game unless it is one of the games i just have to try out.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer going to a game's website and/or message boards to see what features the game has and assess for myself if I want to try it or not. If I end up not liking the game, I simply have to cut my losses and look elsewhere. As you said, it's usually a game I simply have to try for myself.

[Miyochan]

I was reading 2-3 first of your paragraph and stop.
It just another I-DONT-LIKE-IT post and it boring.

They don't remake everything, just enhance it. make it better.
Armory system still here, with new job system attach.

This is what "Most" people want, it like election your president.
Some minor side have to accept major vote. this is democracy.

So stop complaining and post this kind of topic in forum.. wait and see how it work
But if you don't like it so much, stop playing this game and do something else.

[Neptune]

I was reading 2-3 first of your paragraph and stop.
It just another I-DONT-LIKE-IT post and it boring.

They don't remake everything, just enhance it. make it better.
Armory system still here, with new job system attach.

This is what "Most" people want, it like election your president.
Some minor side have to accept major vote. this is democracy.

So stop complaining and post this kind of topic in forum.. wait and see how it work
But if you don't like it so much, stop playing this game and do something else.

That's where you're wrong. I wasn't complaining, and it's not a I don't like it post. Maybe you should exercise your back muscles so you can sit up straight long enough to read one post.

[SuzakuCMX]

That's where you're wrong. I wasn't complaining, and it's not a I don't like it post. Maybe you should exercise your back muscles so you can sit up straight long enough to read one post.

Your abs actually make you sit up straight. You use your back muscles to slouch (hence why people who slouch have back pain) and your "core" muscles (mostly your abs) to sit up straight. This is because your spine, when straight, has to have your abs at the base to keep it straight rather than crooked.

THE MORE YOU KNOW~

[Neptune]

No thank you. Two failed risks would absolutely kill the game. The dev team is doing the right thing right now and making it so that the game is actually enjoyable before they start to do "experimental" "individual" "innovative" things like Tanaka did.

You seem completely blind to the fact that 90% of the game was crap when it was released. Tanaka's vision was nothing but a vision (for Rentahamster: the vision is non-existent in the game right now, but if you look at the original Final Fantasy XIV site, it gives you a good idea of what everyone was expecting. At any rate he was in charge of scheduling as the producer, so all of those who say "HE WAS PRESSURED BY UPPERS TO RELEASE IT TOO SOON" it was his damn job to tell them IT'S NOT READY YET...the director was some dude who worked on FFXI and presumably he had a large hand in releasing the game as crappy as it was as well).

I seem blind? Because it matters that the game was crap? Why does it matter to the point I made in my post?

For more of what you would have got under Tanaka's scheduling, see Shai's post below.

I thought the Armoury system was only being streamlined, not totally destroyed and gone. The Job system will only be an additional layer; we still get our freedom to be what we want to be. ... the CLASSES won't have their freedom changed.

The developers can't really do anything about it....they do one thing, the playerbase readies the uninstall click. They do another thing, the reviewers bombard the game with hate, and some of the playerbase click the button. It almost seems like a lose-lose situation for them, in terms of this forum's views anyhow.

Alas, were it not true what I am about to say. I'd rest easier if Matsui would tell us how far he's going to screw us. But the fact is, he said in his blueprint he is restricting higher level actions to class-only equip. Under classes in the blueprint he said: "Actions will undergo major revisions, along with both the underlying mechanics and conditions. ... we will be making some actions settable on any class, while other "class-defining" actions obtained at higher ranks will be usable only by that class." So no, you're not going to have the freedom to be what you want.. you will be what Matsui says you can be.

As for the playerbase hitting uninstall, if the dev team learns one thing from this thread it should be to not act in fear of that. The playerbase means nothing to SE. It sits at under 30k while the players who paid for the game stands at over 600,000. What matters is THEM, not us.

This is also a good indication of Tanaka's vision. Keep in mind everything listed was likely to have been implemented by Feb or March.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...f018ec5fb504d2

When I ask myself "Would I rather have that list above? or would I rather have a new battle system?" I lean on the things in that article, and I know those things aren't thrown away but I would rather have a mail system now.

Also ask yourself, "What's the new battle system going to be like?"
I'd love to hear some of your answers.
The entire implementation of everything this game needs has been put on hold for this new battle system.
If someone asked me to describe what it will be like because they are interested in returning, my answer would be very limited.

Wow Shai, you have blown my mind. I looked at that list, and I was just shocked. I encourage everyone to click that link. Virtually everything people have been making threads about would have already been in the game by now if it weren't for the direction the dev team headed after the second player's poll. I'm all for Yoshi-P, I support him, but changing the Armoury system to postpone all that and the criticisms in the OP was just a very bad call.

I lie giddy at night thinking about the upcoming battle system revisions.

I love the direction Yoshida is bringing the game and I am in no way sad to see that Tanaka is no longer with us. With each change implemented I enjoy the game that much more.

Sure, I am a hardened ffxi veteran and there are those who flame based on the idea that this isn't ffxi-2 and anyone who loved it should just go back to the old game, but having played xi that doesn't exclude me from getting a say in what I want in ffxiv.

I never cared what critics and game reviewers wrote about games. They're all to often awfully theoretical and structurized in their approach while judging a game.

I would respond to you, but darkstarpoet did so well below..

i care what everyone has said about the game including the trolls. each one of them has just as valid of an opinion of the game as we do here. the difference is we stayed to play so we found something good about the game even if it was only hope in the future.

So true.

It's not about reviewers, its about players. I for one like the direction things are going. The team seems to have some work to do rebuilding the games foundation before any of the other things are taken care of.

Again I'd respond, but could it be put more beautifully than this right here:

would you agree the reviewers have a major impact of the amount of players a game has? if a game has horrible reviews the game is likely not going to attract many players. the majority of people i know always check reviews before they purchase a game unless it is a day 1 game purchase. if a game says 3/10 on the review sites across the board i do not waste time or money on the game unless it is one of the games i just have to try out.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer going to a game's website and/or message boards to see what features the game has and assess for myself if I want to try it or not. If I end up not liking the game, I simply have to cut my losses and look elsewhere. As you said, it's usually a game I simply have to try for myself.

The thing is spellbinder, I am the same as you. However that isn't relevant to this thread. The game needs to look good in the eyes of reviewers, because potential players see through the eyes of reviewers. And in FFXIV's case, a lot quit because of the bad reviews, AFTER they already bought the game. Ouch.

Your abs actually make you sit up straight. You use your back muscles to slouch (hence why people who slouch have back pain) and your "core" muscles (mostly your abs) to sit up straight. This is because your spine, when straight, has to have your abs at the base to keep it straight rather than crooked.

THE MORE YOU KNOW~

lol. Thank you very much. Work on your abs people if you're about to post in this thread! I'm sorry I have been a jerk to some of you but not reading my OP or arguing over nonsensical points is going to earn you my wrath, because I posted what I feel is an important issue and I'd like to see genuine feedback.

[Ilean]

*whine-whine-whine-whine*

That's all ineptune's threads are.

[Neptune]

*whine-whine-whine-whine*

That's all ineptune's threads are.

Really? I'm whining how? Do you have anything legitimate to say? Are you feeling down because I posted criticism of your game?