PLEASE stop telling summoners to use Ifrit!!!

[Kevee]

Oh, and before you say anything, especially for people providing data, provide data yourself when you have a counter-claim.

You're abrasive for no reason.

Oh, and PS.

DK is a 3 DPS gain for Ifrit.

So he will do 1 more DPS than Garuda.

At a loss of Contagion, and being in melee.

Which also doesn't factor in Garuda doing more with Foe Requieum.


http://i.imgur.com/qXMDjuM.jpg

He was actually hovering around 59 DPS most of the time, I wanted to be nice and SS it at 60.


As compared to:

Ifrit no DK

http://i.imgur.com/iHyYWwF.jpg


Garuda no Foe Req

http://i.imgur.com/9rpXAAi.jpg

I just laugh at anyone dumb enough that thinks doing damage on a test dummy proves anything when it comes to pets.



People also forgot that Ifrit hits twice as much as Garuda so its more likely to proc Enhanced Pet Abilities which gives you a nice haste bonus. So the argument should be is that buff better than Contagion every minute, I think Contagion is amazing and great but a bit overrated.

Because, you know, it kind of does. If one pet does more on a DUMMY, not even mentioning ranged or melee, with equal damage buffs/debuffs they will always do more. ALWAYS. PERIOD.
That's why dummy testing is always important.

Spell Speed is a very marginal stat for SMN. Our DoTs don't tick any faster with SS. For me, I have to expend 13 GCDs while under that pet passive to "gain" an extra GCD. Is an extra 80 potency every 13 GCDs, only while the ability is procced(which for me is 3%[6% with Ifrit] uptime), worth an inferior DPS pet(+melee) and loss of Contagion? I highly, highly doubt it.

I love the SMN class but my only real issue is horrible target swap DPS for low HP targets like rock jails on Titan, with a good group I just ignore them.

Sidebar: My whole point in all this back and forth is don't pretend you know everything and anyone that got different results or doing something different than you is wrong. Hear that person out and test it then make your own judgement. The game is not even 2 months old so stuff is bound to change especially when people get more gear and experience and DPS meters get better(I think are wrong 90% of the time but they are a decent judge). I find it hard to believe the dots are accurate when dot dmg doesn't show up in your combat log.

Have your 8-man be, you know, coordinated and run Gaols to Titan so you can Bane on them?

My whole point is I have tested things, and I am testing things. There's no reason to be an abrasive asshole when a new element is introduced that people didn't know, or think about, before. Also, make an informed decision. Think before you post.

Please do some actual research, or data gathering, before you post like an abrasive asshole. Even some napkin math would've told you that Ifrit still isn't worth it. You don't get to make a claim, especially against data already present, that it's wrong--Without providing data of your own.