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    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    try removing all your gear except the weapon, garuda's damage will be extremely low, at around 100 each wind blade, but if you remove all your gear on ifrit the attacks only lose a couple of damage (probably because determination scales with ifrit but not int)
    Just did as you suggested. Ifrits auto attack goes from 60-70 to 40 his and burning strike down to 80-90 from 130 ish. I only tested it briefly, I am not a number cruncher.

    Meanwhile Garuda goes from 180-194 down to like 120-130ish.

    I would have to conclude that Ifrit DOES scale from int in the same amount as Garuda, the difference being that the scaling is split between his auto attack and burning strike, where as Garduda scaled directly into Windblade.

    Again this is just a proof of concept not a conclusive study of dps.
    If Ifrit is really as you say gimped and only spamming burning strike every 4 seconds, this could lower his potential, however it may be intended since his auto attack almost always goes off a second before that and he could suffer from animation lock preventing him from executing it at the 3 second mark.

    EDIT: After actually watching Ifrit attack I am convinced that the reason he delays burning strike is because of his auto attack, animation lock must be it. But think about it, he is delaying burning strike by one second or so to auto attack which when added together are either the same or more than windblade , is that really a net loss of dps?
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    Last edited by azethoth; 10-18-2013 at 01:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azethoth View Post
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    you're right, I tested it earlier and saw "70+ damage" so I thought that's probably his autoattack changing damage slightly or not at all, I guess that was his burning strike.

    cause I tested it now again for the second time, it did lower his damage significantly, err.. I ought to watch these things a little closer.

    EDIT: I know now what went wrong, ifrit snapshots your stats when you summon him. so when i tested it earlier, I saw no damage difference when I removed my gear because it was still carrying the snapshotted stats when I had the gear on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    you're right, I tested it earlier and saw "70+ damage" so I thought that's probably his autoattack changing damage slightly or not at all, I guess that was his burning strike.

    cause I tested it now again for the second time, it did lower his damage significantly, err.. I ought to watch these things a little closer.

    EDIT: I know now what went wrong, ifrit snapshots your stats when you summon him. so when i tested it earlier, I saw no damage difference when I removed my gear because it was still carrying the snapshotted stats when I had the gear on.
    Indeed snapshot at summon. Perhaps you may be able to help test this better. From what I can tell they don't so much as snap shot your stats, as they snap shot your gear.
    What I mean is: I had a thought to pop a HQ mega pot of int before summon to see if they would benefit from that, but it seems that even though it adds the int to your stats, that temp int doesn't transfer to the pet.
    Now I am not saying it should but if I am seeing it wrong, it could be an interesting way for a small dps increase.
    EDIT:
    @xxalucard
    just an immediate yes? Kinda short response.
    Has anyone timed how long wind blade takes to travel to the mob? Given that she should always be at range and is normally at max range, travel time of the attack should be factored in when comparing it to Ifrit's auto attack +burning strike.
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    Last edited by azethoth; 10-18-2013 at 05:51 PM.