my complaint about dragoons

[WhiteWindHD]

you obviosely didnt play 10 then if you think my opion is silly

Kimy "the blue guy wit the horn" is a example of the way dragoon rlly should be

False,

Kimahri was a combination of a dragoon and a blue mage, literally the only thing that made him resemble a dragoon was a spear, the ability to jump and the name of the ability lancet. Everything else is through and through blue mage.

Taken from the wiki:

The game does not use an official Job system, but Kimahri acts as a combination of a Dragoon and a Blue Mage. He equips spears, and his special ability is Lancet, which drains HP and MP from enemies and allows Kimahri to learn new Ronso Rages, his Overdrive. His initial Overdrive is Jump.

[kappasig_nu_up]

i like the dragoon class aside from larger complaints not immediately being directly related to the class (not being able to dye the armor bugs me for some reason). However i do wish that maybe the last dive learned was more similar to the boss battle where it is earned. Maybe have it singe the ground with fire and provide for adjusted continued damage instead of just one firey explosion. Maybe add some elemental effects to the other 2 dives to better differentiate between the 3?

[Wingless_Seraph]

Let me get this straight. People against Dragoons using Wyverns are using lore from games as far as two decades old that are single player, 2-D sprites up until FF7+ (Excluding the many 3-D remakes), but then discredit the only other MMO Final Fantasy in the series (FF11) which has 10 years of gaming service, countless expansions, and content?

How much tradition do you need? Out of every single Final Fantasy, the one most RELEVANT to 14, is FF11. At this junction in the entire FF series, Final Fantasy 11 would have the defacto metric in the evolution of the jobs we all know today, especially since it's the only one that is an MMO, and can have direct parallels to the only other Final Fantasy MMO (FF14).

Basically, you can reply to any naysayer or Kain, Freya, Fang lore fanatic and say..."Uh, FF11 Dragoons had Wyverns, so what's your point?" Kain not having a pet is of no weight to the argument when Dragoons in FF11 had Wyverns.

If you're for Wyverns, fine, if you're against Wyverns, fine, but let's not dip into the concepts of a traditional job from games up to 20 years old and ignore FF11 which has evolved the FF Jobs immensely. It's like reading a dime novel on a topic and completely ignoring an encyclopedia with thousands of pages on the same topic.

[EasymodeX]

Basically, you can reply to any naysayer or Kain, Freya, Fang lore fanatic and say..."Uh, FF11 Dragoons had Wyverns, so what's your point?" Kain not having a pet is of no weight to the argument when Dragoons in FF11 had Wyverns.

Kain > FF11. He basically defines the Dragoon lore. FF11 is the only aberration in a long line of Final Fantasy.

It's like reading a dime novel on a topic and completely ignoring an encyclopedia with thousands of pages on the same topic.

If FF11 = dime novel and FF franchise = encyclopedia, then yeah.

[Wingless_Seraph]

I'd fully argue against that. And the FF franchise has many aberrations on these "jobs." But given all the surname "Highwind" people I see in the game, I get a clear picture on why these arguments end like this.

FF11 would be your encyclopedia, easily grand slamming the entirety of the FF franchise on the topic of jobs. It's silly to see it any other way. Even the concept of jumps being the way they are from an MMO's perspective can be derived from FF11 and not from turn-based combat like Tactics.

[Whiz]

I'm finding that a majority of the forum posters never played 11 ironically. Most on the forums don't believe that a majority of the elements in 14 come from 11, which any FF11 player can clearly see it does. I for one don't want a wayvern (pet Job) which is why I never played dragoon in 11. the thing about pet jobs is that if your pet dies so does your dps. but they should give us the breaths and tweek the jumps so you take no damage while using them. The breaths could have a high recast time like jump or have them use a majority of out mp pool.

[Whiz]

Kain > FF11. He basically defines the Dragoon lore. FF11 is the only aberration in a long line of Final Fantasy.



If FF11 = dime novel and FF franchise = encyclopedia, then yeah.

1st off this game is FF's 2nd MMO and its modeled after the 1st one period. Now if we speak on the lore of 14 that too has many elements taken from 11 as the two games have close similarities. Compared to all other FF titles 14 and 11 are the closest by far to one another in lore jobs ect.... So to dismiss 11 when speaking on 14 is just foolish. Remember the original FF14 team was fired and the FF11 team was brought over to run 14. Also FF11 by far is the most lucrative title out of the whole series. So if you think 11 doesn't influence 14 you just in denial bro.

[RazzleDazzle]

All DRG needs is invulnerability frames when jumping. That's it.

[benwithvees]

Instead of backflipping after jump, I would rather have my character just jump back

[Kouske]

Your all forgetting one thing out of this equation. This game is a PAY TO PLAY game. How do you think they are going to milk you for all they can if they give you everything right away. This about it carefully.