Healer Role in Dungeons

[Rollan]

Hello. My name is Rollan.

And I'm a Holy Addict.


Before pull, be sure to have stoneskins up between pulls, CLERIC STANCE... HOLY (aoe stun), then do it AGAIN! Throw another stoneskin on tank (watch for stoneskin buff to drop), rinse and repeat until you need to -cleric and toss regen/cure. But usually for something simple as AK speed run and WP speed runs go, I'm usually ok staying in cleric stance almost 70% of the time and just using stoneskin (don't have to take cleric stance off for this). The stuns from Holy REALLY help you to nuke and not be healing, especially if you can time your holy right so it can stun lock for a bit.

This speeds up our runs ALOT. Not to mention Holy is pretty addicting.

[Zetor]

Hello. My name is Rollan.

And I'm a Holy Addict.


Before pull, be sure to have stoneskins up between pulls, CLERIC STANCE... HOLY (aoe stun), then do it AGAIN! Throw another stoneskin on tank (watch for stoneskin buff to drop), rinse and repeat until you need to -cleric and toss regen/cure. But usually for something simple as AK speed run and WP speed runs go, I'm usually ok staying in cleric stance almost 70% of the time and just using stoneskin (don't have to take cleric stance off for this). The stuns from Holy REALLY help you to nuke and not be healing, especially if you can time your holy right so it can stun lock for a bit.

This speeds up our runs ALOT. Not to mention Holy is pretty addicting.

Out of curiosity, are you (and especially the tank) outgearing these instances?

In my experience, trying to dps (beyond putting up Aero/Thunder on a boss or something) in cleric stance doesn't work in a typical WP/AK pug, even on trash. The tank takes too much damage for stoneskin and cleric-stance heals to keep them up, and the aoe damage from Holy (even out of cleric stance) will rip aggro on the second/third mobs. Also, Holy is -expensive- mana-wise. Dropping Holy on bosses is even worse -- aside from the mana concerns, it'll quickly make the boss stun-immune, and if the tank wants to stun a particularly damaging move, they won't be able to.

Believe me, I like the spell and would love to be able to spam it (especially when lots of adds need to be burst down) -- but even if I use it just once on a boss fight, it'll likely leave me low enough on mana that I won't be able to combat-rez someone who ate a one-shot boss mechanic. Using Holy twice in a boss fight means I won't be able to Cure2 the tank any more unless I get lucky with freecure procs. Etc.

[Al_Harrington]

You should be able to get away with a SS and a Regen and DPS. Like Rollan said I am in Cleric Stance far more then I heal. A WHM can put out about 150,000-175,000 damage easily in AK. I holy bomb groups of three or more, use Shroud when I need to back off and heal. If I am not at full MP I Aero stone the target mob along with rest of DPS trash and bosses. An AK run requires about 800,000 damage to complete so 20%ish of that is huge. If you looked at it from pure damage per second that's roughly 7 minutes of damage that would have to be made up by the other DPS. Come to think of it this applies to almost all content for me besides coil and phase 3+ of Titan. The thing you have to get out of your head is having the tank at 100% health all the time. I let them go all the way down until a Beny is required even and I keep Stone 2 things to death.