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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    why don't just make it an MMO with Final Fantasy features?
    Because Final Fantasy isn't what you call a feature.. -_-

    Final Fantasy is already the main title, hence why Cairdeas is suggesting that they focus on making Final Fantasy what it is supposed to be, with the features of an MMO.

    It all comes down to what game are we playing. Final Fantasy? or just any old MMO?

    Figure it out.
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    Last edited by Nuru; 05-22-2011 at 08:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Moogles, where ma Moogle!!
    This. D:

    It would be nice to see some random Moogle houses around Eorzea, like some mini cave or hole that you could enter via a examination icon or something ^____^ or id just like to see more of them, spread out here and there, like a city moogle for example.

    Maybe Stilzkin type of moogle that could work as a mailsystem/mailbox thing. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    It all comes down to what game are we playing. Final Fantasy? or just any old MMO?

    Figure it out.
    An MMORPG with the final fantasy name stapled on it. What do I win?
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    TERRIBLE IDEA.

    It is an MMO and, as such, should fulfill its role as part of the genre. An MMO is a game where multiple people come together and affect the world (either through the economy, or through community, or through building and shaping the world - think ArcheAge and other Sandbox MMOs).

    An MMO is not a linear path with 4320428402 Final Fantasy paraphernalia and memorabelia jumping out at you 12381243123 times a day to remind you just how unimaginative SE are these days.

    But hey, at least they're recycling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    TERRIBLE IDEA.

    It is an MMO and, as such, should fulfill its role as part of the genre. An MMO is a game where multiple people come together and affect the world (either through the economy, or through community, or through building and shaping the world - think ArcheAge and other Sandbox MMOs).

    An MMO is not a linear path with 4320428402 Final Fantasy paraphernalia and memorabelia jumping out at you 12381243123 times a day to remind you just how unimaginative SE are these days.

    But hey, at least they're recycling!
    So Genre is more important to you than the entire idea of what Final Fantasy is since the first Final Fantasy made?

    Honestly, a Final Fantasy MMORPG without any Final Fantasy Elements is just another MMORPG. There are way too many Original MMORPGs out there, whereas most people that play FFXI and FFXIV are fans of the Final Fantasy Series, and not just fans of MMORPGs.

    There needs not to be any arguments here, as this is how things are. Final Fantasy fans are demanding this game to be a Final Fantasy, and I may shoot myself for bringing this up, but this is also the reason why they do not want to see Chat Bubbles, Jump, or Glowing Weapons. Its just that the franchise is known a certain way and nobody wants Final fantasy to disappear into the crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    So Genre is more important to you than the entire idea of what Final Fantasy is since the first Final Fantasy made?

    Honestly, a Final Fantasy MMORPG without any Final Fantasy Elements is just another MMORPG. There are way too many Original MMORPGs out there, whereas most people that play FFXI and FFXIV are fans of the Final Fantasy Series, and not just fans of MMORPGs.

    There needs not to be any arguments here, as this is how things are. Final Fantasy fans are demanding this game to be a Final Fantasy, and I may shoot myself for bringing this up, but this is also the reason why they do not want to see Chat Bubbles, Jump, or Glowing Weapons. Its just that the franchise is known a certain way and nobody wants Final fantasy to disappear into the crowd.
    I like the final fantasy atmopshere, but the atmosphere shouldn't determine the gameplay, which is the whole reason why I opt to play an MMO for. You can guarantee most would leave if this game became a classical FF with multiplayer option.

    Okay, so who wants random encounter screen effects that teleport you to an isntance where you fight a mob? Raise your hands.

    Sorry, but maybe that would be engaging for a handful of people, but I would hate that, speaking for myself. I would hate it so much I would troll this forum for the rest of my life.

    This is an MMO first and foremost, just like most FF games are single-player games first and foremost.
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    As a limit break type thing I am sure they are going to add, there was a post way back when talking about possibilities of bringing a 2hour like ability to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Okay, so who wants random encounter screen effects that teleport you to an isntance where you fight a mob? Raise your hands.
    FFXI/FFXII already did away with that "tradition"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proxx View Post
    FFXI/FFXII already did away with that "tradition"
    Exactly, and FFXI did away with that tradition because... wait for it...

    IT WAS AN MMO FIRST AND FOREMOST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    I like the final fantasy atmopshere, but the atmosphere shouldn't determine the gameplay, which is the whole reason why I opt to play an MMO for. You can guarantee most would leave if this game became a classical FF with multiplayer option.

    Okay, so who wants random encounter screen effects that teleport you to an isntance where you fight a mob? Raise your hands.

    Sorry, but maybe that would be engaging for a handful of people, but I would hate that, speaking for myself. I would hate it so much I would troll this forum for the rest of my life.

    This is an MMO first and foremost, just like most FF games are single-player games first and foremost.
    I can agree with you about atmosphere should not determine the gameplay, and yes, people would leave if it ever came down to being a FF with Multiplayer option.

    However, most of what is going on is just trying to change the atmosphere. Rather, we should be focusing on the core mechanics. The battle system has been addressed, but what else can we change to make this game more enjoyable? What would you like to be able to do (instead of just being able to see)? If you get what I mean.

    Basically, when a newbie starts the game, I'd rather them be "Yes this is going to be a great Final Fantasy" rather than be introduced into a world and be like "wtf?" *Checks box Title* "...what game is this again..?"
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