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  1. #1
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    Dear SE: We do not care if FFXIV is a MMO. We want it to be a Final Fantasy.

    I think this has ultimately been the worst problem SE has given themselves with FFXIV.

    They tried too hard to make it seem like a normal MMO to everyone, then trying to make it seem like an Exceptional Final Fantasy to us Final Fantasy Fans.

    Recently though we were told Jobs were inbound. This is a great step forward towards making it feel more like a Final Fantasy. Other elements we know are coming. Chocobos will eventually show up. As will other features.

    But I'd like to compile a list of feature that past Final Fantasy's Had that have become synonymous with Final Fantasy that are currently missing from FFXIV. If you can think of anything please post it. I'll Also post a list of features from Past FF's that are being debated for implementation. Any that get implanted into FFXIV we can mark off the list. If the feature is already in game but not accessible to the player we'll keep it marked as Inbound.So please, help me fill these lists.

    Already Present:
    • Game Title
    • Original Story
    • Quests
    • Summon Entities (Appearance only Not Usable Yet)
    • Unique Experimental Features
    • Crystals (Aetheryte)

    Inbound:
    • Chocobo
    • Airship
    • Jobs
    • Materia
    • Joinable Oraganizations (Avalance, Returners, Companies, etc.)
    • Dungeons
    • More Quests
    • More Epic Storyline Elements that really move the player.
    • Skill Combining System (Revamped Battle Regements)

    Missing:
    • More Unique and Experimental systems that could be classified as Unique to Final Fantasy after implementation..
    • Usable Summons
    • Colorful Unique Enviroments
    • Robust City-life filed with non player elements that catch the eye.
    • Elements that promote Emotional Attachment to the Game, and other Players.
    • More Monster Variation
    • More Classical Returning Monsters
    • Evolving Bosses that once one phase is defeated a new phase evolves from it for a new fight.
    • Trains/Doom Train
    • Traditional UI elements. (Pointing Finger, Classic(FF1-7 Hybrids) Style Menu graphics as an Optional choice.)
    • Ultimate Skill, Limit Break, Etc.
    • Mini Game Area (Gold Saucer)
    • More powerful and usable Consumables.

    if you list a feature please try and quantify which section it should be listed under.
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    Last edited by Cairdeas; 05-23-2011 at 01:48 AM.
    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    I thought this was gonna be about soloing, so glad its not. I just /ranted (i'm sorry I get mad sometimes ; in another thread, probably incoherently, about how in an attempt to mainstream, we're moving away from the geek chic or nerd audience that previously enjoyed mmos. FFXIV needs to do the opposite of Star Wars Galaxies.
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    Chocobos alone would satisfy alot of people and I think lots would come back just to get one of their own.
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    why don't just make it an MMO with Final Fantasy features?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    why don't just make it an MMO with Final Fantasy features?
    No.

    Because its supposed to be a Final Fantasy with MMO Features that lend to being a Final Fantasy.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    I think this has ultimately been the worst problem SE has given themselves with FFXIV.

    They tried too hard to make it seem like a normal MMO to everyone, then trying to make it seem like an Exceptional Final Fantasy to us Final Fantasy Fans.

    Recently though we were told Jobs were inbound. This is a great step forward towards making it feel more like a Final Fantasy. Other elements we know are coming. Chocobos will eventually show up. As will other features.

    But I'd like to compile a list of feature that past Final Fantasy's Had that have become synonymous with Final Fantasy that are currently missing from FFXIV. If you can think of anything please post it. I'll Also post a list of features from Past FF's that are being debated for implementation. Any that get implanted into FFXIV we can mark off the list. If the feature is already in game but not accessible to the player we'll keep it marked as Inbound.So please, help me fill these lists.

    Already Present:
    • Game Title
    • Epic Story

    Inbound:
    • Chocobo
    • Airship
    • Jobs
    • Materia

    Missing:
    Also:

    -Companies
    -Ifirt Fight
    -Dungeons
    -Auction House
    -Alot of Quests ( Eorzea's Doom/Ifrit/Open World/Companies etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    why don't just make it an MMO with Final Fantasy features?
    This.

    Also, please try to be more specific about what needs to be kept and what needs to go. Stuff like auto-regen being a white mage-only thing, HP and MP not recovering when out of combat and such is also part of Final Fantasy. And does not work in the context of MMOs. If you are talking about concepts and elements related to character identity, lore and creatures, you might want to update your thread title to reflect that.

    That being said, balance considerations have to be made in the MMO context, not the Final Fantasy context. As I mentioned elsewhere, too many mistakes were made last time because they kept things that did not work in an MMO.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Also:

    -Companies
    -Ifirt Fight
    -Dungeons
    -Auction House
    -Alot of Quests ( Eorzea's Doom/Ifrit/Open World/Companies etc)
    I can't logically put the Auction House feature up there. Simply because it lends itself more to a MMO feature and not a Final Fantasy Feature. The others are valid if a bit more specific. But thanks.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Final Fantasy is all about experimenting.

    This thread is the complete opposite of what the franchise is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    I can't logically put the Auction House feature up there. Simply because it lends itself more to a MMO feature and not a Final Fantasy Feature. The others are valid if a bit more specific. But thanks.
    I only put it on there because it was one of the reasons the made FFXI successful. Of Course with all the other Finl Fantasy Elements thet they put into FFXI, ( and soon to come on FFXIV) so I dont think nothing is to worry about.

    (Just ignore the trolls if you can) =)
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