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    Well if crafters make comparative gear and pvp gear is held back with weekly caps like mythos currently does then PvP will become pay to win. If not then fine but judging what I see now in game with mythos, I expect this might be the case.

    I can already picture a crafter and RMTers rubbing their hands together in glee at the massive profits to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Well if crafters make comparative gear and pvp gear is held back with weekly caps like mythos currently does then PvP becomes pay to win. If not then fine but judging what I see now in game with mythos, I expect this might be the case.
    "pay to win" means spending real money for an advantage in a game. I guess the PvE in this game is "pay to win" because you can buy gear to use for PvP with Gil. /sarcasm1

    Learn what terms actually mean before throwing them around. Some people just look for every excuse to decry PvP. If crafters can't manke anything it just makes them more useless than they already are, and there won't be and PvP-related gear for people to start out with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    "pay to win" means spending real money for an advantage in a game. I guess the PvE in this game is "pay to win" because you can buy gear to use for PvP with Gil. /sarcasm1
    Judging by all the people buying gil right now and many crafters getting their gil taken away because of them; I rest my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Judging by all the people buying gil right now and many crafters getting their gil taken away because of them; I rest my case.
    Um, how do you know how many people are buying gil? Please, show me your statistics from an accurate source. The percentage of players with gil taken away or getting banned is miniscule compared to the total number of players. The number of people getting in trouble for RMT activity also doesn't indicate the number of buyers, it only indicates the number of gil banks and farmers.

    Again you're just grabbing at every straw imaginable to decry something. If you don't like PvP or think it will be contaminated by RMT or whatever, then just don't play it, instead of making up cockamamie nonsense that is both illogical and irrational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    Well if crafters make comparative gear and pvp gear is held back with weekly caps like mythos currently does then PvP will become pay to win. If not then fine but judging what I see now in game with mythos, I expect this might be the case.

    I can already picture a crafter and RMTers rubbing their hands together in glee at the massive profits to come.
    I'm fairly sure SE is not stupid about the gear situation with regards to vendors and crafting. The best gear is going to come from participation and performance. Crafting gear will likely be entry to mid tier (possibly slightly under the best with HQ). Either way, the grand majority of players will not be buying the gear if the prices are too outrageous, and SE will not make players spend months of gametime to obtain entry gear... I mean look at our AF pieces. I expect a few hours of active PvP to obtain enough currency for at least 1 PvP equip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I'm fairly sure SE is not stupid about the gear situation with regards to vendors and crafting. The best gear is going to come from participation and performance. Crafting gear will likely be entry to mid tier (possibly slightly under the best with HQ).
    What if you need special mats for PvP gear that you can buy with earned PvP points?
    Then crafted gear (with the special mats) can be the second best PvP gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    I can already picture a crafter and RMTers rubbing their hands together in glee at the massive profits to come.
    Yep.. And about time there is an increase in demand for gathered/crafted gear...

    People currently get gear handed to them that is "comparable" to gear that is craft-able. Currently the only real profitable way for a crafter to make gil is to craft iLvl 70 gear. As for gathering on a Legacy server? Forget it, because all of us have a DoL that is at 50.. So you can practically buy any gathered item for practically nothing.
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