Even SE staff hates Warriors...

[Amyas]

Both PLD and WAR have their differences, Strengths, Weaknesses, and its not the classes fault if you don't know what they are, it's your fault. There is more then enough information out there to educate people on both, and those that complain, didn't do their research.

This, this, a thousand times this.

Orly? So a level 2 Limit Break is somehow going to magically go through a move that makes you literally Invincible for 10 seconds? Please, tell me more.

I can pretty much guarentee they remove that skill or change it for pvp. Devs have already said skills and traits and gear will change for pvp, so your argument makes 0 sense. That and I'm pretty sure there are boss moves that can still kill a pld with hallowed ground up, so... yeah.

[CurlyBruce]

I can pretty much guarentee they remove that skill or change it for pvp. Devs have already said skills and traits and gear will change for pvp, so your argument makes 0 sense. That and I'm pretty sure there are boss moves that can still kill a pld with hallowed ground up, so... yeah.

They didn't say they were changing skills for PVP, they said they were adding skills that would remove Stun/Silence/etc. and make you temporarily immune. Read the description on the video.

[Amyas]

They didn't say they were changing skills for PVP, they said they were adding skills that would remove Stun/Silence/etc. and make you temporarily immune. Read the description on the video.

Still doesn't explain why you think Hallowed Ground would make you invincible to a LB when it doesn't make you invincible to many bosses special attacks :T

[Tiggy]

They didn't say they were changing skills for PVP, they said they were adding skills that would remove Stun/Silence/etc. and make you temporarily immune. Read the description on the video.

Actually they did say this. A few months ago.

[CurlyBruce]

Actually they did say this. A few months ago.

Actually all they said "months ago" was that there would be specific PvP moves and this was while in development. Now on the verge of release the only info they have given relating to PVP only skills is CC removal/immunity to prevent balance issues with people spamming Sleep/Tri-Disaster.

[Tiggy]

Actually all they said "months ago" was that there would be specific PvP moves and this was while in development. Now on the verge of release the only info they have given relating to PVP only skills is CC removal/immunity to prevent balance issues with people spamming Sleep/Tri-Disaster.

You seem to be confused. Somehow you believe "new" info completely invalidates "old" info. There is no reason to believe they aren't additive. Glass is half full not half empty. Also we are at least a full month out from release. Hardly "on the verge" considering we just now saw a video for the first time.

[Hachiko]

I can pretty much guarentee they remove that skill or change it for pvp. Devs have already said skills and traits and gear will change for pvp, so your argument makes 0 sense. That and I'm pretty sure there are boss moves that can still kill a pld with hallowed ground up, so... yeah.

Damage can not kill a PLD through hallowed ground. Only instant kills / knockbacks (fall damage) can. Limit break is neither of those. And there is no way SE is taking away the difinitive level 50 job skill from Paladins for PvP.

Even if they did, PLD would still have Sentinel and rampart available to avoid death from the level 2 limit break.