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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    Hi,

    Can you please elaborate on your second sentence. Do you think GW2 market system is an inferior or is FFXIV's market system inferior?

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    No they meant that although the current system is inferior, it works.
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    Buy Orders are in game.

    Go to macros and type the following-

    "/shout Hello, I am a (ADD YOUR DOH AND LEVEL), I will make you stuff cheaper then Market because I hate undercutting, so ill just do it cheaper!".

    Add to hotbar and then push the button. People will then send you tells, respond to these to figure out which items they want. Then do the old shady mechanic routine, where you tell them your materials are imported from Italy and have a higher cost, materia is expensive these days.. yadda yadda.

    BOOM, you just Buy Order'd. Gratz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalPoison View Post
    Buy Orders are in game.

    Go to macros and type the following-

    "/shout Hello, I am a (ADD YOUR DOH AND LEVEL), I will make you stuff cheaper then Market because I hate undercutting, so ill just do it cheaper!".

    Add to hotbar and then push the button. People will then send you tells, respond to these to figure out which items they want. Then do the old shady mechanic routine, where you tell them your materials are imported from Italy and have a higher cost, materia is expensive these days.. yadda yadda.

    BOOM, you just Buy Order'd. Gratz.



    My system allows for better efficiency in the buyer and seller market by the following:

    1) A seller who wants to sell their wares to clear inventory can go to the buy orders and sell directly to a buyer that has a buy-order. Granted this is below market value but if the seller wants to get rid of his or her items they will take the loss and move along.
    2) A buyer gets the product that they wanted at a price that is below market price.

    This is a Win-Win for both sides.

    In your scenario I would need to spend my entire day in Uldah for this to work. I really do not want to waste my time doing that and I am sure most people would not either.

    Second, with your macro system, can you imagine all the shouts that would happen if people did this? It would get tot he point that sellers would out-spam the RMT people. As an example, please look at the chat screens from Everquest in the "East Commonlands" (for all that remember playing that, yes, the dreaded lag of the EC tunnel and the Sgt Slate agro )zone pre-Shadows of Lucin expansion. "/Shout", "/Auction", & "/Ooc" were spammed to the point that it was causing significant lag in that zone.

    Side note - you need to re-work your sentence on the "macro" if you hate undercutting yet you will do it cheaper. you ARE undercutting
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalPoison View Post
    Buy Orders are in game.

    Go to macros and type the following-

    "/shout Hello, I am a (ADD YOUR DOH AND LEVEL), I will make you stuff cheaper then Market because I hate undercutting, so ill just do it cheaper!".

    Add to hotbar and then push the button. People will then send you tells, respond to these to figure out which items they want. Then do the old shady mechanic routine, where you tell them your materials are imported from Italy and have a higher cost, materia is expensive these days.. yadda yadda.

    BOOM, you just Buy Order'd. Gratz.
    I'm not sure how that is a buy order. A buy order would be more along the lines of me saying I bid 500g for x item and letting a crafter/gatherer fulfill that order. And the system explained previously is completely superior to what is in game as a whole and then shouting that you will make items for people. Not sure why you considered an offer to supply as a buy order but okay.

    I'm assuming you were just trying for tongue in cheek (If not look up things), but since the concept of your tongue and cheek was wrong figured I would comment.

    And to the OP I meant that the current system in FF is inferior to GW2 but since it works SE will not change it.
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    Install GW2 Trading Post System. Done. Out of every MMO I have played it is by far the best (though can be glitchy some times but only rarely and naturally fixes if you close out of the Trading Post window for a few seconds) system I have ever worked with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Install GW2 Trading Post System. Done. Out of every MMO I have played it is by far the best (though can be glitchy some times but only rarely and naturally fixes if you close out of the Trading Post window for a few seconds) system I have ever worked with.
    As much as I disliked the GW2 game in general - the market system was well done. I'd be extremely happy with either a version of that or even better, a version of EVE's market system. Buy orders to help market liquidity would be wonderful.
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    I posted in another thread about my thoughts on this, I would be for it..Im going to just copy past the post from that thread here to save a rewrite.

    {I like the buy order idea also. I think it should add another dimension to the markets without effecting to much the normal MB,if handled correctly. A reverse of the MB maybe, where the buyer pays ahead while placing an order.If the order is filled within a set time, the seller is paid and delivery made. If the order is not filled, then gil refunded. This would allow the buyer to play at the sellers game somewhat,but force those in need of an item right now to go to the MB.

    My only thoughts are on how messy it would be to implement and how popular it would be,would it be a ghost town or destroy the MB. Even still a buyer v/s seller game to dominate might be fun.}
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