I hope this game doesn't become like FFXI

[Leeloo]

I think new ideas are always good, but they should of kept some basics from xi, besides race just text commands and certain features that were useful, not the usually confusing to some macros or what not, but I would like search commands. When it came to XIV they forgot everything they did right about XI, and that is kinda unacceptable, it shouldn't be copy and paste of XI, but they should not focus on only negative things to change (and the complaints about XI made XIV what it is). Also in the grand scheme of things I don't think they are changing this into a XI clone, its going to be a FF clone in a mmo setting, which is what XI was, XIV should be better. All i want is that "FF feeling", in XI in Jeuno top floor, i felt like i was back in a city from FFIII or IV, I want that from XI in XIV but not particularly the time sink (which i believe was half created by players)

Well said. Some of that gets lost within all the talk of races, jobs, etc. But some of the really unacceptable, confusing things that turned people off was how they managed to make XIV worse regarding the basics. Targeting, UI, Search/Party/LS functions, controls, etc. A lot of time had to be spent just sorting that mess out early on. And some of it still needs work.

Though they did get some things right(Crafting/Gathering are much more enjoyable in XIV) and other things can be a lot better in the near future.

I don't exactly want them giving up on new ideas(unless they were bad or fubar) just to copy XI, but they definitely could've borrowed more good things from XI and avoided some of the headache they created.

[Kam]

I don't exactly want them giving up on new ideas(unless they were bad or fubar) just to copy XI, but they definitely could've borrowed more good things from XI and avoided some of the headache they created.

This. A million times.

All it would have taken was someone on the dev team to actually have played both XIV and XI longer than 10hours and given honest feedback.

Two ideas from XIV im looking forward to is

1) Player Run companies - there are islands in game we could build ships to get to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M1hx41WXk << two for example.

2) Chocobos being more than just a "mount" system (i think they'll be our moogles at some point, e.g. moveable retainers/mog houses)

But thats just my hopes.

[Cendres]

This. A million times.

All it would have taken was someone on the dev team to actually have played both XIV and XI longer than 10hours and given honest feedback.

Two ideas from XIV im looking forward to is

This is also true, innovation + XI's basic functionality (like the LFG flag system for one) is what we expected, instead we got a whole lot of unrefined innovation in a half baked shell. I'm still confused like most of you why they didn't just build on what was existing in XI for the skeleton and build on that instead of trying to reinvent absolutely every little aspect and running of time.

[Kam]

This is also true, innovation + XI's basic functionality (like the LFG flag system for one) is what we expected, instead we got a whole lot of unrefined innovation in a half baked shell. I'm still confused like most of you why they didn't just build on what was existing in XI for the skeleton and build on that instead of trying to reinvent absolutely every little aspect and running of time.

I belive this is the last of tanaka's work in-game, and what player built company content would "unlock"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M1hx41WXk

(3mins for first island, 8mins for 2nd island)

PLEASE CHECK THAT LINK!!!

^^

[Physic]

I belive this is the last of tanaka's work in-game, and what player built company content would "unlock"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M1hx41WXk

(3mins for first island, 8mins for 2nd island)

PLEASE CHECK THAT LINK!!!

^^

ok, the idea of sailing to islands, and having stuff going on there, seems like it would have been great.

[Moth]

ok, the idea of sailing to islands, and having stuff going on there, seems like it would have been great.

Well that is not out of the picture yet o:
It would be pretty cool, seeing there are lots of little islands in separate zones in that vid.
Perhaps linkshell owned airships/boats can sail to their own linkshell run island where their company housing is and such. Would be pretty cool.

[Duelle]

Well said. Some of that gets lost within all the talk of races, jobs, etc. But some of the really unacceptable, confusing things that turned people off was how they managed to make XIV worse regarding the basics. Targeting, UI, Search/Party/LS functions, controls, etc. A lot of time had to be spent just sorting that mess out early on. And some of it still needs work.

Putting the comparisons aside, this I can agree with. There is such a thing as working groundwork for a game that was basically tossed out the window.

I don't exactly want them giving up on new ideas(unless they were bad or fubar) just to copy XI, but they definitely could've borrowed more good things from XI and avoided some of the headache they created.

I agree with you in part. I'll also admit I am jaded based on the myriad of bad ideas that saw implementation in FFXI, which is why it's a little difficult to bring myself to trust them to give us something that is both enjoyable and meaningful without having a stupid timesink or highly inconvenient conditions attached to it.