People complaining about PS3 Players

[PerrythePlatypus]

Indeed, is funny cause is true!

It's not true at all. If you think a controller is AS good as mouse and keyboard, you're on drugs. Is it adequate? Sure, but go saying it's as good, and I will have a good chuckle.
Your post gave me a good chuckle as well.

Could you possibly post some sources of what was limited by the PS3?
If not Sources or it didn't happen.

Graphics for one. It's bad enough when eye candy is limited to take into account people on toasters, but then you got cross platform on a 7 year old console that cant even manage 720p, and and has to do it at 30fps, with other settings equivalent to low on PC.
The skill delay I'll bet is because of designing around the PS3. There's no other possible excuse for the horrible, clunky skill delay.
And have you ever noticed how PS3 players move? The look like they're keyboard turning, with the analog stick.
Sources not needed btw. Simple facts.

the movement thing is as simple as them changing their settings from legacy to standard. standard they will move and strafe more like a pc using wasd, on legecy its more like moving with the arrow keys

Um..there is no difference what so ever between WSAD vs arrow keys except for the location on the keyboard.

Do you work for SE? Sorry if ignore you as a source.
You can use mouse and keyboard on PS3, i am sure you know of this. You can move just like a PC player.
Unless you can come up with something other than hear say evidence then don't bother. I have seen all the bedroom expert guesswork before.

Yes the PS3 has limitations but it doesn't mean it will effect the PC version of the game to a degree where it will make the game any less fun.
It is just the usual PC is the best rubbish.

Yes PCs are capable of upgrade, yes they have the better graphics and yes they have the substandard coding that goes into the games.
You see the simple fact is this. PC tech moves so fast that most games are thrown out far from running as well as they should be. That is ok though because people will just spend more money on upgrading their PC to compensate and patches will be thrown out for any game breaking problems.

Consoles on the other hand get well optimized games which tend to get the most of the hardware available. As the console ages the coders get so good at optimization that they end up being able to get far more out of the hardware than anyone ever did when it was top spec for PC.

Which means despite the PS3s obvious lack of power it isn't as much of a problem as everyone seems to think it is.

Also how was the eye candy limited for PC because of the PS3? I see the PS3 version of the game everyday. Yes it is far from PC standard (which i see everyday as well) but most of the effects on the PS3 are on the PCs higher settings, shadows and that sort of thing.

This is so full of ignorance it's sad.
Every single game that's available on both PC and console, is better on PC. There is no " substandard coding", or at least no more so than the original it's ported from. And when it's originally on PC and ported to console... the PC version is still the best.
The Witcher 2, BF3, Batman AA/AC, Skyrim..you name it, they're better on PC.
Please...go learn a thing or two before typing such misinformed rubbish....
Every game that's "rushed out" is not the fault of " substandard coding" or whatever other hyperbole you want to throw around. That's the fault of publishers. A)It's nothing a patch doesn't fix and B) the console version of a bad launch is always victim as well.
And I don't need to "work for SE". There is no debate, these are objective facts.
You ask how the PS3 effects the PC version. It's simple. It's called a base line. Imagine if the baseline didn't use low end pc's and ps3 for a frame of reference for low settings. What would" low" settings be? What if developers were able to do WHATEVER they wanted using 7870/gtx660 as a min? It would be a higher quality baseline.
But a large chunk of people don't know wtf they're doing, have a piece of crap PC that's little more than a HTPC with a low end GPU in it and expect dev's to revolve the game around their ignorance and pc illiteracy. I can't count the forum threads I've seen with illiterates using a $25 gpu wondering why a game is a slide show. I mean...come on. And developers sadly CATER to these nimrods so it "runs on a wide range of hardware".

The PS3 is running FF14 at a resolution that doesn't even amount to 720p ( it's a squashed mangled almost but not quiet 720p), at 30fps, missing anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, along with shorter draw distance, lower resolution textures, more simplistic meshes, no ambient occlusion and long load times.
In short, roughly the same as low settings on PC.

You sir, are one of those not too tech savy types, that can't be bothered to learn a thing or two about pc hardware, are unable to manage simple problems and find consoles safe, simple and adequate. Fine, great, but you're taking it a step further being totally uninformed, uneducated and comfortable in your own little world arguing what I say.
There is no " optimized" console version of a game. You're living in a dream world. I have many popular modern games that are available for both console and PC, that run flawlessly on my PC. Not only flawlessly, but making the console version look terrible.

The next gen consoles will bridge the gap for a couple years, but we'll be back here again.

Im not even gonna bother responding to the below posts. I already pointed out the existence of a game that gets ported FROM console to PC.
In either case, it's better on PC. It's hilarious you argue it, and I havnt seen this " unoptimized code" you speak of in years. Again, not any more so than it is on console. It is what it is, it's NEVER better on console. Even when GTA4 ran like crap, it was light years better than the horribad low fps,low draw distance stutter fest that was the console version.

[alhandra]

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the movement thing is as simple as them changing their settings from legacy to standard. standard they will move and strafe more like a pc using wasd, on legecy its more like moving with the arrow keys

[alhandra]

which just furthers my point, its all about setting the right ui, filters, and movement, all of which is based on preference and playstyle. i have my game so fine tuned that there would be absolutely no way for someone to tell if i was ps3 unless they themselves were on ps3 and inspected me to see my gamer tag.

the default setting on this game are horrible, if someone is using them they will be hampered. maybe ill make a guide on how to optimize your game for ps3 it seems like alot of people really dont get it

[Mythrella]

It's even more twitchy than XIV and that's saying something.

XIV is twitchy?

My response to the thread was the game is built with such slow combat, it can obviously be played on both platforms.

[Nero92]

What kind of mouth breathing, basement dwelling crap is this? lol PCs are "elite", but not elite enough to keep me from taking mobs, getting fate golds, etc. Superior, right...

[Sixmp]

Graphics for one. It's bad enough when eye candy is limited to take into account people on toasters, but then you got cross platform on a 7 year old console that cant even manage 720p, and and has to do it at 30fps, with other settings equivalent to low on PC.
The skill delay I'll bet is because of designing around the PS3. There's no other possible excuse for the horrible, clunky skill delay.
And have you ever noticed how PS3 players move? The look like they're keyboard turning, with the analog stick.
Sources not needed btw. Simple facts.

Do you work for SE? Sorry if ignore you as a source.
You can use mouse and keyboard on PS3, i am sure you know of this. You can move just like a PC player.
Unless you can come up with something other than hear say evidence then don't bother. I have seen all the bedroom expert guesswork before.

Yes the PS3 has limitations but it doesn't mean it will effect the PC version of the game to a degree where it will make the game any less fun.
It is just the usual PC is the best rubbish.

Yes PCs are capable of upgrade, yes they have the better graphics and yes they have the substandard coding that goes into the games.
You see the simple fact is this. PC tech moves so fast that most games are thrown out far from running as well as they should be. That is ok though because people will just spend more money on upgrading their PC to compensate and patches will be thrown out for any game breaking problems.

Consoles on the other hand get well optimized games which tend to get the most of the hardware available. As the console ages the coders get so good at optimization that they end up being able to get far more out of the hardware than anyone ever did when it was top spec for PC.

Which means despite the PS3s obvious lack of power it isn't as much of a problem as everyone seems to think it is.

Also how was the eye candy limited for PC because of the PS3? I see the PS3 version of the game everyday. Yes it is far from PC standard (which i see everyday as well) but most of the effects on the PS3 are on the PCs higher settings, shadows and that sort of thing.

[Noshpan]

I, personally, welcome those who play on the PS3 and on PC.

[Andrien]

I welcome players on all platforms. I wont be surprised if the PS3 player base is larger than the PC player base in this game. Especially in Japan.

To be fair, if your PC is optimized to run this game then its fine, but if you're on a laptop and can't upgrade, the performance might be an issue if its an old model.

[Sephirah]

It's not true at all. If you think a controller is AS good as mouse and keyboard, you're on drugs. Is it adequate? Sure, but go saying it's as good, and I will have a good chuckle.
Your post gave me a good chuckle as well.


This is so full of ignorance it's sad.
Every single game that's available on both PC and console, is better on PC. There is no " substandard coding", or at least no more so than the original it's ported from. And when it's originally on PC and ported to console... the PC version is still the best.

You're assuming this is a PC game which was ported over to consoles, and that isn't correct. This game was DEVELOPED for PS3, and PORTED to PC. The game has been designed and tested to be 100% playable by console players.

The only advantage PC has over PS3 is the graphics are higher, which has zero affect on the effectiveness of the player.

I'm a PC player who uses a controller, guess I can kiss any thoughts about end-game raiding goodbye... oh wait... (currently on Turn 4 in Coils)

[Sixmp]

This is so full of ignorance it's sad.
Every single game that's available on both PC and console, is better on PC. There is no " substandard coding", or at least no more so than the original it's ported from. And when it's originally on PC and ported to console... the PC version is still the best.
The Witcher 2, BF3, Batman AA/AC, Skyrim..you name it, they're better on PC.
Please...go learn a thing or two before typing such misinformed rubbish....
Every game that's "rushed out" is not the fault of " substandard coding" or whatever other hyperbole you want to throw around. That's the fault of publishers. A)It's nothing a patch doesn't fix and B) the console version of a bad launch is always victim as well.
And I don't need to "work for SE". There is no debate, these are objective facts.
You ask how the PS3 effects the PC version. It's simple. It's called a base line. Imagine if the baseline didn't use low end pc's and ps3 for a frame of reference for low settings. What would" low" settings be? What if developers were able to do WHATEVER they wanted using 7870/gtx660 as a min? It would be a higher quality baseline.
But a large chunk of people don't know wtf they're doing, have a piece of crap PC that's little more than a HTPC with a low end GPU in it and expect dev's to revolve the game around their ignorance and pc illiteracy. I can't count the forum threads I've seen with illiterates using a $25 gpu wondering why a game is a slide show. I mean...come on. And developers sadly CATER to these nimrods so it "runs on a wide range of hardware".

The PS3 is running FF14 at a resolution that doesn't even amount to 720p ( it's a squashed mangled almost but not quiet 720p), at 30fps, missing anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, along with shorter draw distance, lower resolution textures, more simplistic meshes, no ambient occlusion and long load times.
In short, roughly the same as low settings on PC.

You sir, are one of those not too tech savy types, that can't be bothered to learn a thing or two about pc hardware, are unable to manage simple problems and find consoles safe, simple and adequate. Fine, great, but you're taking it a step further being totally uninformed, uneducated and comfortable in your own little world arguing what I say.
There is no " optimized" console version of a game. You're living in a dream world. I have many popular modern games that are available for both console and PC, that run flawlessly on my PC. Not only flawlessly, but making the console version look terrible.

The next gen consoles will bridge the gap for a couple years, but we'll be back here again. .

Using your forceful opinionated posting method does not make you correct. You think throwing around insults proves you correct? Wrong.
You completely missed my point about how consoles get "finished" games as apposed to "unfinished" games that get rushed onto PC. Yes consoles games do get patched but much less than PC.

The above points out that unfinished games run badly on anything be it PC or Console but you can get away with it more on PC which is proved time and time again by games being rushed out by publishers. The problems get corrected after launch.
It also points out that when people work with the same hardware they become better at coding for it. Therefore getting better results. Consoles are a prime example of how this works. Early games look good but the later games look much much better.
Which means as the PS3 is now 8 years old the people coding for it will be very good at optimizing games for it. IE Narrowing the gap.

I never at any point said that any console game was better graphically than a PC game. You somehow seemed to get that idea from somewhere.

Sorry yes you need to work for SE to put forward information based on their game regarding any PS3 limitations that effect the PC version of the game. As they and only they have the exact information.

The PS3 baseline as you call it while it is correct it also effects as you correctly stated PCs that are lower spec. Which in that case all the PS3 hate should automatically include them. Some how it does not... why is that?
Unfortunately in your angry state you seemed to be happy to insult not only PS3 owners but many PC owners as well.

As for my PC literacy i have been gaming on PC for the past 13 years. Build my own PCs, resolve my own problems and my PC runs well at all times.

So you are quite incorrect on many things.