Dear SE: I wish lvling wasn't so fast :(

[Ruisu]

I played with plenty of terrible people at 40, 50, 60, 70 and 75. XP parties in FFXI didn't reward good players, they rewarded stubborn ones.

But Final Fantasy XI was SO MUCH MORE CHALLENGING AND HAD SUCH A BETTER COMMUNITY. Please stop being so delusional wow kiddies and go back to your game pls.

Levelling is actually harder in ARR than it was in 1.0, or rather, I should say it wasn't so ass backwards. The first 30 or so levels were incredibly tedious, and the last 20 levels were a joke.

Also, FFXI didn't take that long to level in. I mean, it was grindy, sure. Though a lot of that time you spent "levelling" included finding parties which, if you played a less favorable job, you weren't getting any of those anytime soon. Also it had a lot of gated progression. Do this dumb level 55 level cap quest to keep levelling, now level 60, 60, 70, etc. It sucked. That's why levelling felt as though it took so long.

[Anisto]

All the threads about how ppl wish this game was more like ffxi, do they know ffxi is still up and running? Why make the same game twice?

[Noshpan]

I think leveling is fine. It's neither too short (unless you do a good chuck of FATEs and/ or leves) nor too long (well, maybe a little once you decide to level a second class/ job). While I don't mind spending time getting to max level, I have no desire to spend the better part of a year feeling like I'm playing a Korean grind MMO just to get to max level on a single job.

The majority of player characters are between the late-teens to mid-twenties in levels. So it's a noisy minority that are complaining about having the End of Game Blues. Heck, even in an article, Yoshida said that he hasn't had the time to play his character and was last at level 18.

It shouldn't be the game developer's job to take the game in moderation. But since some people would rather be forced and told what to do, instead of going "Hey, maybe I should log off, get some sleep, eating a real meal instead of doing things that will hurt my health"

[astrobear]

All the threads about how ppl wish this game was more like ffxi, do they know ffxi is still up and running? Why make the same game twice?

ikr? it would be like if i were to say " man swtor was such a good game, man i wish this was more like it"

for fuck sake, FFXI is right here..
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

bro play FFXI

[Sephirah]

I think leveling is fine. It's neither too short (unless you do a good chuck of FATEs and/ or leves) nor too long (well, maybe a little once you decide to level a second class/ job). While I don't mind spending time getting to max level, I have no desire to spend the better part of a year feeling like I'm playing a Korean grind MMO just to get to max level on a single job.

The majority of player characters are between the late-teens to mid-twenties in levels. So it's a noisy minority that are complaining about having the End of Game Blues. Heck, even in an article, Yoshida said that he hasn't had the time to play his character and was last at level 18.

It shouldn't be the game developer's job to take the game in moderation. But since some people would rather be forced and told what to do, instead of going "Hey, maybe I should log off, get some sleep, eating a real meal instead of doing things that will hurt my health"

The pace of a game is very much within the realm of the developer's job.

For the last time people I don't have "End-game" blues. I LOVE this game, and the ENDGAME content. I'm not complaining about a lack of content either. I'm mearly suggesting that the leveling could have been slowed down. I think it would be better if it took a "dedicated" played about 4 months to reach max level, rather than a few weeks.

And to all the people saying go back to XI, XI is nothing like it used to be when it launched, you can level there faster than fate grinding here.

[astrobear]

And to all the people saying go back to XI, XI is nothing like it used to be when it launched, you can level there faster than fate grinding here.

so wait..

if FFXI isnt like FFXI, how the F**K FFXIV could be like FFXI?

[Uriahnool]

Guys, SE made the game so you can intentionally get to 50 fast and enjoy the end game content with your friends and have fun. The first class is the easiest because you have a story to drive progress, extra rewards, and more places to explore. Anyone who has not leveled up more than one class should understand this. If you don't want to level up any more combat classes, you can take up a tool and work on a crafting/gathering class to get that slower leveling fix.

[Osha_Sohma]

FFXI was not HARD. FFXI was TEDIOUS. It didn't take SKILL to level, it really didn't. Sure, having the chart of weapon skills printed out next to your monitor was nice, but honestly? Most people when I played never bothered to worry about skillchains, it was always "use your best WS as often as you got the TP." If you were a mage and magic bursting, or trying to, well, you were a statistical outlier in the extreme.

Let's not even touch on the misery that could happen when you hit a threshold level and be locked out of groups unless you had half a million gil to drop on gear upgrades. (try getting a group as a level 60 Dragoon if you didn't have your brigandine+1 and all the +acc gear trimmings.) I ended up walking away from FFXI because I wanted to play Dragoon, i loved it all the way up to 60, but I was facing the stark reality of needing to spend 6 months either leveling up a craft to make money or 6 months farming crystals or whatever to make the money to upgrade to get parties.

[Arriko]

All the threads about how ppl wish this game was more like ffxi, do they know ffxi is still up and running? Why make the same game twice?

THANK YOU!!!!

I guess it really boils down to how YOU want to play. If you are only going to level PLD of course its going to go by fast. Because thats all you are focusing on. While many people like the benefits that a sub job can offer, that usually takes time to level after the story because you dont have that large amount of EXP coming in without grinding. For myself, a casual player, i think the content and time progression is perfect. I have a crazy work schedule that tends to alter my playing times. Plus with all the DoL/DoH stuff, i think leveling goes not to fast, not to slow. But again as I said, i guess its all on how you want to play.

[Saidosha]

I played with plenty of terrible people at 40, 50, 60, 70 and 75. XP parties in FFXI didn't reward good players, they rewarded stubborn ones.

Dittoing. Nevermind the fact XI parties had a tendency to target the weakest mobs of a given level range to maximize EXP and minimize risk of death. Crabs? Easy. Scorpions? Not many liked Death Scissors one-shotting tanks.