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  1. #191
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    Solanthus's Avatar
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    Galen Swiftblade
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Azzizi View Post
    I like to think I know Anna well enough to be correct in clarifying that I don't think she meant to imply anything about your FC, as we really don't know anything about it. There has, however, been some kind of belief that WE are some sort of hardcore endgame raiding FC, which is not the case. 5 day inactivity is not overlong for the FC we actually are.
    Ah, well if the reference was to a different, theoretical Company then I apologise for reading the post incorrectly. While our Company does intend to do Coil, we also do many other activities and do not want an impression to form that we are a raid-only strict Company based on something like time spent.
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  2. #192
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    Brevitic's Avatar
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    Ruan Ares
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nica View Post
    oh my, Goon in ARR?

    Did you guys get bored after kicking TEST out of Delve?
    I don't know what this means, what is this? There a lot of goons, PBC is a pretty different group from other goon groups. Like we try to be polite and friendly community members.
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  3. #193
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    DNA's Avatar
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    Dna Chan
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brevitic View Post
    I don't know what this means, what is this? There a lot of goons, PBC is a pretty different group from other goon groups. Like we try to be polite and friendly community members.
    He's referring to EVE Online goons.
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  4. #194
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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 70
    No FC has more than 512 active members. Try culling your herd of characters that don't play anymore or don't participate in the FC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brevitic View Post
    Okay so I will kick people as they go to school or work for a day or go to sleep. Your definition of active is apparently much narrower than ours which includes "logged in before work made them stay passed normal playing hours two late nights in a row."
    My definition of "active member" is someone that currently participates in the game and participates in FC, either chat or events. Not "logged in"... >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by BotenAnna View Post
    This seems asinine, not to mention ridiculous to track (especially speaking as the person who would be charged with making some sort of tracker.) We don't need to dictate to people how to enjoy the game, or what to do. Moreover on your end, it's pretty rude to set arbitrary standards based on things you don't experience and judge others harshly for not living up to them. Please look at other posts in this thread where I break down how active our FC members are (spoiler alert: they're very active)
    There need to be limits on the size of an FC. There's only so much data servers can reasonably handle. Most whiners who always demand more inventory or more guild members allowed don't ever consider this. 512 is an extremely gracious amount and no FC ever has that many active members participating. Not to mention most of the time it's 50%+ Alts.

    What's the point of having someone in the FC that isn't even paying for a subscription or playing? Or having them in the FC if they never talk and never do anything with the FC?
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    Last edited by Kaedan94; 10-11-2013 at 12:34 PM.

  5. #195
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    Ruan Ares
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    No FC has more than 512 active members. Try culling your herd of characters that don't play anymore or don't participate in the FC.
    Okay so I will kick people as they go to school or work for a day or go to sleep. Your definition of active is apparently much narrower than ours which includes "logged in before work made them stay passed normal playing hours two late nights in a row."

    You are kind of mean, I think.
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  6. #196
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    WizardShotTheFood's Avatar
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    Taba'sae Kason
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Hey, can I accuse PBC of being a bunch of idiots who spam-recruit and are 99 percent alts who haven't logged in since beta 4, or am I disqualified by virtue of having actually read the thread?
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  7. #197
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    BotenAnna's Avatar
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    Lady Gaga
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Solanthus View Post
    Ouch, some harsh assumptions there about me and my Company.
    I'm sorry, I wasn't saying what kind of company you are, just what kind of company we are. There's a wide variety of lifestyles and playstyles, so we don't really police much beyond making sure people don't cause problems like harass other members. Some people (like me!) are logged in most of the time and are very active, others only come on intermittently. It sounds like your FC is very active, which is good, and a hallmark of a tight-knit group that socializes mainly through the game! However in our case, those kinds of groups tend to congregate in our sub-linkshells and people who aren't as closely connected have a place to log in and do things as they can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    No FC has more than 512 active members. Try culling your herd of characters that don't play anymore or don't participate in the FC.



    My definition of "active member" is someone that currently participates in the game and participates in FC, either chat or events. Not "logged in"... >.>
    This seems asinine, not to mention ridiculous to track (especially speaking as the person who would be charged with making some sort of tracker.) We don't need to dictate to people how to enjoy the game, or what to do. Moreover on your end, it's pretty rude to set arbitrary standards based on things you don't experience and judge others harshly for not living up to them. Please look at other posts in this thread where I break down how active our FC members are (spoiler alert: they're very active)
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    Last edited by BotenAnna; 10-11-2013 at 12:29 PM.

  8. #198
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    Ronyx's Avatar
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 72
    Well you need to start kicking people. I believe that probably 20-30% of all those 512 people had already quit after subs kicked in. So you probably will have enough space to fit all those people in the other FC.
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  9. #199
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    Fazed's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Fazedahn Taylop
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 42
    I really can't understand why there would be any technological limitations preventing the more elastic expansion of FC member limits.

    The growth in resources required as a usercount of an FC rises is proportional to the amount of people in it, reduced by the fraction that are online (and as such, further reduces any instantaneous load demands, such as passing FC messages).

    And further, as people can only be in a single Free Company, you aren't going to get the kind of overlapping that you DO get with, for instance, Linkshells.

    And of course, there's no need for a FIXED cap? Why not simply require a free company to have hit capacity and then they need to spend X amount of whatever the FC currency is actually called, in order to raise it higher. Perhaps in ever larger amounts, which would require more ACTIVE players in order to maintain?

    And that's just one way I can think of to balance server resources and the needs of players. No doubt there are many, many more.

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  10. #200
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    WizardShotTheFood's Avatar
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    Taba'sae Kason
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    Well you need to start kicking people. I believe that probably 20-30% of all those 512 people had already quit after subs kicked in. So you probably will have enough space to fit all those people in the other FC.
    Care to bet money on that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magus42 View Post


    I had to go to page 3 of 3 just to find someone who'd been offline more then 4 days, so... any ideas that we're primarily made up of people who never log in are just patently false.
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