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[Obysuca]

I don't understand why we'd want to artificially inflate our numbers, we don't have enough slots for active players that want to play. If you care about numbers more than people, or think that there is no point to having a large group of friends other than be able to brag about it, please do not project these shortcomings on to other people.

People do that because they think it makes them the best for having a "big fc". Also, still no in game proof as to how many people have been unactive for 3+ weeks. Again, people joining on a forum is completely different than in game activity.

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

[HunkyJimpjorps]

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

We have several active progression linkshells within PBC; some are learning Turn 5, some are earlier in Binding Coil, some are working on Titan, some are gearing up. All the LSes help each other out materially and with advice; some of the groups further along bring members of the less-progressed groups on runs to show them the fights. PBC is the umbrella underneath which all these groups cooperate.

We already figured out very early on that we can't just have one single progression group. I really appreciate all your advice on how to run my FC but a lot of these issues you're bringing up have either already been solved or are based on false premises.

[Selic]

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

Why would they be left out? Tons of people have organized Linkshells for the people they can schedule a a Titan attempt or a BC run with. The FC remains because we like interacting with other people as well. We don't just confine ourselves to a tiny group and never go beyond. Hell, a few BC linkshells regularly run Titan HM attempts to help get others geared and ready for BC.

[Bellona]

I'm amused at how pointing out the faulty logic presented in posts of the opposing viewpoints is interpreted as personal attacks. All we want is for our concerns to be voiced. Others came in and told us our concerns were invalid, because their playstyle is different from ours and therefore we're "doing it the wrong way". Now we're "attacking" because we post to defend our valid concerns.

Oh and here's a mindbender for you- maybe we're getting a lot of PBC members all coming out of the woodwork and posting all of a sudden because we really are as big and active as we claim to be? For every one of us posting in this thread I'd hazard a guess there there are several more just watching, and laughing.

[dukka]

People do that because they think it makes them the best for having a "big fc". Also, still no in game proof as to how many people have been unactive for 3+ weeks. Again, people joining on a forum is completely different than in game activity.

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

Once again: why do you care about our size? We are presenting a legitimate concern that has come of our membership situation and your only contribution continues to be the projection of viewpoint that we are 'doing it wrong'. I really don't see why you feel so entitled to disenfranchise us of our right to voice an issue if said issue is a problem.

[TwoCattesHigh-Fiving]

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

You appear to be extremely judgemental of the people you play with. Please understand that not all members of our FC are interested in "progress" as you define it, it is a social group for us to enjoy each others company or find like-minded individuals to share resources with without clogging shout channels in various zones. Please do not attempt to define what an FC should be for other players, as that would be quite rude and out of place. Thank you for understanding and empathizing with our situation.

[Urfdser]

If their request was granted I imagine it wouldn't have any effect on anyone who thinks large FCs are pointless. 14 pages arguing over it seems far more pointless to me.

[Magus42]

Also, still no in game proof as to how many people have been unactive for 3+ weeks. Again, people joining on a forum is completely different than in game activity.

I had to go to page 3 of 3 just to find someone who'd been offline more then 4 days, so... any ideas that we're primarily made up of people who never log in are just patently false.

[Anakhu]

I'm out of this topic now , I understand why you want it and I support your cause. What SE can do that would be beneficial 2 ways ( players happy, gil gone from economy ) is just like player housing is supposed to be from what I hear, small house, bug house, uber house or some crap like that.. is to make it possible for a rank 5 company to be able to purchase FC member limit cap increases. This can be a considerable sum, and if your needing it apparently you have a lot of members so can come up with this sum. say, 512 no upgrade, upgrade 1 +100 , upgrade 2 +200 , upgrade 3+ 300 , and one final upgrade putting your FC limit at 1500 people. AND these limits have to be purchased in ORDER, so if you want final you must buy the first 3.

Does this sound reasonable? or should they increase the cap all around for everyone even tho hardly more than a handful or 2 of FC reach the first cap?

[BotenAnna]

People do that because they think it makes them the best for having a "big fc". Also, still no in game proof as to how many people have been unactive for 3+ weeks. Again, people joining on a forum is completely different than in game activity.

Also it's not just me, have you looked through this topic? There's plenty who say there's no point in having such a big FC, I doubt you even know all of your members, maybe 30 of them, but not all, which ends up leaving people out of progressing because in a FC that big, there will always be a majority who are left out. And again, quality > quantity

Your "quality > quantity" thing is subjective and personal preference. As I have stated, we enjoy playing this way, and it says way more about you than it does about us that it upsets you that we have a different philosophy. Moreover, I posit that we have quantity AND quality; I very much enjoy playing with this group and only wish it wasn't artificially divided. I don't understand why I have to know every member personally to enjoy being in a company with them, and having them in a pool of people I can run dungeons and do other activities with; it is a social area for pick up groups and to recruit for linkshells that work better for specific purposes, as I have already stated. That you personally don't want to play or socialize this way has no bearing on that other people do.



Also JUST FOR YOU I just checked and there are only about 40 members that haven't logged in over 2 weeks, ~10 of them have explicitly requested to stay in because they can't play due to extenuating circumstances. We plan on removing anyone who hasn't logged in in that long within the next few days (we're almost a week away from when billing started) and have already removed a decent number to move people from DGKK. 40 slots is not nearly enough slots for people in DGKK waiting for a spot.



Please also note that we have over 50 people online at pretty much the most off peak time of the day.