What happened to players?

[Kafziel]

WoW happened >>

All types of players existed before WoW did. MMO's are just more prevalent now so the number of every kind of player is increased. I have played many games where I enjoyed the game mechanics far more than WoW's. However, WoW is the MMO that created the most fond memories for me. This is entirely due to the players I played with. There were tons of awesome, helpful people in the guilds I joined that helped create countless great memories. Those same type of players are everywhere in this game as well. So many people have distorted nostalgic views on how games/MMOs used to be. There were always players that tried to ruin the game for others. I have met far more helpful players than rude/griefing players so far in FFXIV.

[ArcheustheWise]

All types of players existed before WoW did. *snip*

Then consider yourself lucky or not using the df enough lol. In any case he is right it got worse because of wow. (not to blame all the players there, some were nice) but the general culture and it widening the doors for everyone to come enjoy mmos is what did it.

Ill make an example. EQ1. People would train mobs to end zones and shout out about it so that people wouldnt get caught up in a line of death. Sure you had your bad grapes, but that was few and far in between, because if you were an ass, people didnt want to party with you. Try and do stuff like THAT now today and people would use it to grief you to make you get out of "their" zone.

So what happened? Wow did. It changed the mentality of mmos/players (again noting not ALL) in general and now all of a sudden its some kind of "standard".

[Kafziel]

So what happened? Wow did. It changed the mentality of mmos/players (again noting not ALL) in general and now all of a sudden its some kind of "standard".

The mentality of mmos/players/people in general may have changed but WoW was not the cause for much of it. A far more likely suspect is the internet itself and how people seem to think the anonymity of it lets them say and act however they want. I saw very few who changed how they acted in game because of WoW. I did see people who acted differently than in the real world because they were playing a game on the internet.

[ArcheustheWise]

The mentality of mmos/players/people in general may have changed but WoW was not the cause for much of it. A far more likely suspect is the internet itself and how people seem to think the anonymity of it lets them say and act however they want. I saw very few who changed how they acted in game because of WoW. I did see people who acted differently than in the real world because they were playing a game on the internet.

I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree to a certain extent.. Because before wow, every mmo game i played had very little "bad" experience. It may not have started in wow (im not arguing that and if i did ill go change my words) what im saying is that wow made it THAT much worse by opening the doors of mmorpgs to a much LARGER audience. If the inet's bad influence drained through that medium whos to say, but wow was the medium in which it happened. Like or hate the game wow did influence the genre heavily player or other game wise, no one can deny that.

Hell, some games changed completely due to wows influence. (see SWG)