What happened to players?

[AccountBanned]

I remember when I was getting into multiplayer games that people were a heck of a lot nicer, helpful, and tolerant. I can't tell you how many times in FFXI I finally found an exp group and they told me to come to where they were (which took 10-20 minutes to travel) only for me to die half way there and have to start that journey over. Every so often I'd get a tell saying "are you still coming?" and I'd tell them how I died and I was trying to come back...eventually, almost an hour later, I'd get there and find a spot still open and ready for me in the group and I'd be greeted with "welcome!"

Now, people in duty finders are absolutely rude and act like they've played this game for 15 years and if you're not doing things a certain way then you should just log off the game.

I got online this morning after working my butt off for two back-to-back 12 hour shifts and asked nicely over a popular linkshell where the level 40 levequest was. One person replied nicely and another offered me a website to go to. I respectfully declined the website offer and just said that thanks but I don't trust outside webpages (honestly very polite) and the response was "You're f****** retarded"

I just don't get where people think it's ok to speak and act like this from the safety of their home.

I'm the guy who spends hours of my time not progressing further on my own character and sits in revenants toll shouting "Relic Monk willing to help those without gear or experience with anything they need" These people aren't my "friends" and I've never met them before, but I think it's great to be able to help someone through the game in parts that I may have originally struggled with.

Even these forums, it's like someone comes up with a pretty interesting idea and people race to say things like "The game has too many other problems, your idea is irrelevant". Even this post will have someone who is just searching the forums for a chance to leave a negative dent in a topic.

I don't know if I have a real question or a point to be made other than I guess my own little rant....but what happened to players? I almost wish after what I experienced today that I didn't pay for another 3 months and I just got a single player game instead.

[VahnValbosce]

The world of MMO's has forever changed.

I honestly wish there were more players like you, but I'm not getting my hopes up. In reality I'm thinking of moving to a server where there is low population or something maybe that will help. In all honestly things need to change and the only thing I can see happening is people need to be vigilant in cutting off childish behavior before it begins.

Asking for help = "Just Google it"
Joining a party = People disbanding without ever saying a word (somehow this is social behavior?... or online games mean "anti-social is acceptable")
Need help with a fight? = Pay us 300,000Gil to run you through.

[AccountBanned]

The world of MMO's has forever changed.

I honestly wish there were more players like you, but I'm not getting my hopes up. In reality I'm thinking of moving to a server where there is low population or something maybe that will help. In all honestly things need to change and the only thing I can see happening is people need to be vigilant in cutting off childish behavior before it begins.

I challenge you and anybody else to offer 30 minutes to an hour of your time to sit in a low level area and offer help or shout in revenants toll that you're willing to help any group that could utilize your class/job. Think of how many times you've just ran around doing something stupid because you were bored...maybe that's a good time to offer someone a little bit of your time.

[VahnValbosce]

I challenge you and anybody else to offer 30 minutes to an hour of your time to sit in a low level area and offer help or shout in revenants toll that you're willing to help any group that could utilize your class/job. Think of how many times you've just ran around doing something stupid because you were bored...maybe that's a good time to offer someone a little bit of your time.

I have ran Titan with people and ran Garuda and Ifrit with people who simply needed a tank and I had no need for the fight whatsoever. I make money through crafting items for people, not charging them money for running them through content (ie, Titan).

I also don't complain about peoples gear in ANY dungeon, CM, AK or Praetorium.

[Esira]

From my experiences with MMORPGs and people in general, when there is challenge and struggle, people come together to overcome that. And when there is very little, people tend to do their own thing.

It just seems like on a place like the internet, where anonymity is an impregnable shield people don't feel the need to be pleasant or kind to others, because there is no risk of reprisal. You can hide anyone you don't like, and the community is so large that there's little risk of you earning a name for yourself, neither positively or negatively.

There are some good ones still, but they're hidden in the brush and few and far between.

[TheRac25]

The world of MMO's has forever changed.

i haven't played anything with this rotten of a community, ever, swtor aion wow not even close to as much douchery

[Livilda]

Need help with a fight? = Pay us 300,000Gil to run you through.

700k on my server. The people doing this are complete and absolute scum, preying upon desperation like that.
When more of my friends are ready, we're going to start offering free runs like the free company Blacklisted. I'd love to see these pieces of chocobo dung compete with free.

[necrosis]

Asking for help = "Just Google it"

Sorry but I agree with this about some things. I deal with it every day at work. Everything I know I found out by Googleing it. I had no one to 'show me the ropes'. If I did it. So can you.

[LordWyrme]

Sorry but I agree with this about some things. I deal with it every day at work. Everything I know I found out by Googleing it. I had no one to 'show me the ropes'. If I did it. So can you.

Some things yes, some things no. I personally get really annoyed when I ask for a bounty monster location after running around the zone it's supposed to be in for god knows how long, so I shout for the mobs location and the reply from ass hats is "just google it."
If I had a way to google it without logging out of the damn game and using the ps3's browser I would never have asked for the mob's location in the first place. Usually someone is almost always nice enough to help thank the gods, because that is a real shit thing to do to someone who is asking for a simple request.

[Vagrant-0]

WoW happened. Endgame and E-Peen became the entirety behind playing, and everyone who wasn't at max level and in top-end gear is treated as being worthless. The number of duty finder exploits that people have been using to be carried through instances without any effort doesn't help matters. Then add the usual trolls and ninja-looters.

Of course a game would have a toxic community at endgame. Those people who are taking their time and are actually still enjoying things are still in their 30's and are in no hurry.

I challenge you and anybody else to offer 30 minutes to an hour of your time to sit in a low level area...

I don't know about others, but when I leveled my conjurer up I spent more than a few hours queuing for lower instances and trying to help new players out even though my main class was well beyond that point. The players I encountered ranged from utterly hopeless to competent and willing to learn. In general it was a good experience even if I didn't end up getting very much from it.

Point is, not everyone out there is standing around with their thumb up their butt focused entirely on grinding out tomes. More over, most quality FCs will try to help out lower level members or occasionally do some sort of public service to try and promote their FC. There are some good people out there... They just don't usually hang around Revenants Toll since they're usually out doing other things.