Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
Challenge is subjective. When you say "you must be bad if you think it's a challenge" generally mean you assume challenge = constantly dying.

Things are legitimately challenging, just like promyvion's were a whole new world to players at the time.
What lol like talking to a brick wall. I'm just saying DM was not challenging, sure maybe first time as you're completely clueless but after that first run I never died or failed after. And my friends would usually do the same strategy, the only time it got "tough" was when randomers came who have not done it and messed up or a tank DC's, but thats not challenging just dumb luck lol.

Promy was kind of challenging due to limitations.