Weekly Caps: Worse than Fatigue

[Meleena]

They don't understand it because they are daft, and likely very casual, therefore endgame means nothing to them. You must level every DoW, DoM, DoH and DoL to 50 craft full 2* sets for all of them, inspect every inch of every zone, learn how to play the ffxiv theme song on at least 5 instruments, finish all luminary achievements, be able to paint all ffxiv landscapes from memory and so much more or you are simply ignoring content! Don't you get it!

Having every class to 50 is end game, also crafting the best gear in game is end game, maxing out you choco comanion is end game as well.
Insulting will get you nowhere, youre still ignoring content.

Learn to play

Most people agree there are problems with end game. However, your suggestion about removing mythology caps is not a good solution to dealing with the problem. I think you are just trying to change the conversation from "I want myth items faster" to "end game is lacking" to hide your intial intent of wanting mythiology items faster.

You have my like once more.
The game is new and offers a lot to do at end game for a new game, more will come, but lifting myth caps will fix nothing.
It will make the game worse and more repeatable than ever.

After all mor eend game WILL be added if you give them some time.
All the problems this game have right now come from people that want everything without restrictions, like leveling a class in a day.
The same people would have gone nutts if it took you 6 months to level a character like in the old days.

While I dont agree that those things are end game, I will bit the apple. Now for those of us who have all that done what now. I mean after capping myth for the week and doing coil run there really isnt anything left to do.

I doubt that you will see it but I have reached my daily limit and cannot post more.
The answer is, do something else with your life, youre playing this game too much.

[Sotek]

Edit: Also, You don't like leveling other classes, that's fine too, You act like I have a problem with that when I don't. I am only telling you and other people that they do exist and you can do them if you want. I am no way telling you to do what I'm doing, play how you want to play, if the game doesn't have what you want, simply leave unsub and wait for thing you are looking forward too before resubbing.

Thanks, but we're not five. We know the other classes are there already.

You want to know what we're doing right now by complaining about the current state of endgame? We're going "Hey, Square! This? You see this? This wont do in the future. Make sure it doesn't happen again.". Why are we doing this? Because we actually enjoy the game and want to keep playing. If they keep serving horseshit instead though, that wont be happening, and that will be a shame.

I'd much rather Square go "People weren't too happy about those weekly caps... Lets do something differently...", than have them go "Nobody seemed to mind those weekly caps, lets just do more of that for future content!".

[Addonex]

I think many players are too hung up on the idea that everything should be done on a single character. Yes, I get that was the design intent for the game, but the OP and others here have a valid point: the current content does not cater to that design in all ways.

For myself, I just leveled up a second character on the same server. My reasons for starting a secondary character in the first place were not driven by myth caps, but because I was bored and needed something else to do in the game outside of pointless token grinding between raid nights. I abhor FATE grinding and leveling a character to 50 purely through that method would have only made me quit faster, so I started a secondary character.

That said, I still put thought into the pros and cons before I did this. My main is a tank, and my alt was to be a bard, so I'm not really losing any significant time having to level subclasses for cross-class skills. I keep my crafting focused on my main, so there's no need for me to bother with those on the new character. Any philosophy tokens I get on my main, I just trade in for crafting items to make ilvl 70 crafting gear, so my playtime capping myth still goes towards gearing my new character.

It's an entirely viable method in the current context of the game, and not being capped to one character's myth tokens is just an added bonus in my case. I can fully understand why the current myth cap is in place, and can see them making changes to it in the future, but I'm sure that's hingent upon their design decisions for new content, so there's no use speculating what direction they might decide to go with it.

If you're determined to get the most of your characters for now, however, just roll a second one. The reasons for NOT doing so are not nearly as dire as everyone makes them out to be. And if they ever do make game changes that reverse this, just be prepared to deal with it. It might be disappointing, but for me, I've enjoyed my time in game more going this route, and if that ceases to be the case, I'll simply adjust once again according to my preferred play style.

--Addonex

[Starlord]

Thanks, but we're not five. We know the other classes are there already.

You want to know what we're doing right now by complaining about the current state of endgame? We're going "Hey, Square! This? You see this? This wont do in the future. Make sure it doesn't happen again.". Why are we doing this? Because we actually enjoy the game and want to keep playing. If they keep serving horseshit instead though, that wont be happening, and that will be a shame.

Fair enough Sotek.

Just remember though that you won't get what your after next week or 2. It takes time to make content, it just doesn't pop in the game.

[Drakzen1]

Well like I said in previous post alot of people have leveled all classes all crafts all gatherings done all mission involved got pretty much every relic.
But even after you do all of this the end result is very low. While the next update will give crafters and gathers a something to do until the rmt take over the market again at the moment its almost pointless to level a gathering or crafting class. Rmt will beat you at every point an where they dont regular players trying to make an honest living will lol ><. This is from someone who has them all at 50 with achievement/quest items and 5-meld hq sets for each.

The cap on dungeons should be removed in my opinion. But I also think all dungeons should have a level 50 counterpart. I think there should be various sets of gear to obtain not just af2. I also think there should be more stats like 1.0 had. The generalization of stats makes it very hard to make multiple sets of gear available to the players.

[MomoOG]

Thanks, but we're not five. We know the other classes are there already.

You want to know what we're doing right now by complaining about the current state of endgame? We're going "Hey, Square! This? You see this? This wont do in the future. Make sure it doesn't happen again.". Why are we doing this? Because we actually enjoy the game and want to keep playing. If they keep serving horseshit instead though, that wont be happening, and that will be a shame.

Most people agree there are problems with end game. However, your suggestion about removing mythology caps is not a good solution to dealing with the problem. I think you are just trying to change the conversation from "I want myth items faster" to "end game is lacking" to hide your intial intent of wanting mythiology items faster.

[Sotek]

Most people agree there are problems with end game. However, your suggestion about removing mythology caps is not a good solution to dealing with the problem. I think you are just trying to change the conversation from "I want myth items faster" to "end game is lacking" to hide your intial intent of wanting mythiology items faster.

I never actually suggested removing the Mythology cap, go back and read what I actually did suggest.

[Jayded]

Having every class to 50 is end game, also crafting the best gear in game is end game, maxing out you choco comanion is end game as well.
Insulting will get you nowhere, youre still ignoring content.

Learn to play

Oh God thank you for this. I needed a sig. This got me rolling.

[Azazela]

No one would be complaining about caps if there were actually many things to do at 50.

[Drakzen1]

Having every class to 50 is end game, also crafting the best gear in game is end game, maxing out you choco comanion is end game as well.
Insulting will get you nowhere, youre still ignoring content.

Learn to play

While I dont agree that those things are end game, I will bit the apple. Now for those of us who have all that done what now. I mean after capping myth for the week and doing coil run there really isnt anything left to do.