Weekly Caps: Worse than Fatigue

[Velhart]

I think the cap should stay..but they simply need more content. My FC and I are sadly bored because we have done nearly everything...

For me it is not a matter of rushing, I don't rush anything..I go at my own pace and can accomplish quite a lot in a little of time on this game. I have a really solid group and we can do team work, etc.

Yoshida said to us that we will no longer be able to EXP in PT and that leveling is no longer meant to be a big aspect of the game..and instead end game would be everything. Well I am sorry there is not that much atm. Not saying there has to be at this very second, most MMO that come out don't have that much content to start with..but why make CC, AV, DD not end game? That alone would give us a few more instances to do and rotate around instead of AK AK AK AK BC BC etc....

I can agree with you on the aspect of there isn't enough variety in content. I don't think necessarily that content is the problem as much as why there isn't multiple ways of gaining tomes that are efficient. I know in 2.1, they are adding more dungeons that will give tomes, but this is something that should of been from the start, along with the random dungeon finder feature being added in.

Wanderer's Palace could of easily been an alternate ilvl60 dungeon and ilvl55 gear could of been obtained through CM and Praetorium. They could of added the random dungeon feature that offers more tokens than a normal dungeon would. Would this be the perfect solution? Probably not. I wouldn't be surprised if the community found an exploit in the dungeon, abuse it, and ignore the random dungeon feature.

In all fairness though, to put my foot in my mouth, this is a brand new game and a lot of stuff they wanted to give (like Crystal Tower) simply wasn't ready. I do commend them on how much they were able to give us at the start. I'm sure how 2.1 will be presented is probably more of their idea of how they wanted to launch the game, they simply just couldn't get it all out in time.

So, actually, think my main complaint is how dungeon placement was done at the start, haha. I think we should just deal with what we have till next month. You still have Turn 5 in Binding Coils to overcome and as I see, no one has legitimately beaten it yet (Well its down this week, haha). So no point in us being Mr./Ms. Hindsight at this point and just offer feedback for what we can in the future.

[Abyssion]

Source? Or are you just talking out of your rear?

PS, FFXIV is not a new game. It was released 3 years ago.

Uhhh no, their words are, NEW GAME... whether you like or not, was completely rebuilt.
It's a new game, plain and simple.

[Sidious]

Uhhh no, their words are, NEW GAME... whether you like or not, was completely rebuilt.
It's a new game, plain and simple.

How about that source, big guy?

PS, rebuilt does not = new. Hell, people even kept their characters and gear.

[Uveck]

Mythos cap is a way to force people to continue paying month to month. If I unsub and wait until more content is released with 2.1 or 2.2 to resub and there is still a 300 mythos cap, then I missed out on a great deal of mythos. If there is no cap, I can unsub and resub freely and won't have a limit to how fast I can catch up.

Basically the only reason I don't unsub is because I don't want to be out 300 mythos/week until I resub when they add more content because IMO the endgame is incomplete.

[Abyssion]

Mythos cap is a way to force people to continue paying month to month. If I unsub and wait until more content is released with 2.1 or 2.2 to resub and there is still a 300 mythos cap, then I missed out on a great deal of mythos. If there is no cap, I can unsub and resub freely and won't have a limit to how fast I can catch up.

Basically the only reason I don't unsub is because I don't want to be out 300 mythos/week until I resub when they add more content because IMO the endgame is incomplete.

People like you are what make this community so bad. People like you "forced" players, and your toxic attitude.

[Uveck]

People like you are what make this community so bad. People like you "forced" players, and your toxic attitude.

It's not a toxic attitude. The game has a cap on mythos. If you don't sub for a month you lose out on those mythos and if the cap remains you can never get those mythos back. That is a way to force people to continue to pay.

[Welsper59]

It's not a toxic attitude. The game has a cap on mythos. If you don't sub for a month you lose out on those mythos and if the cap remains you can never get those mythos back. That is a way to force people to continue to pay.

When you really go neutral about it though, is that even a problem? It's the way this game is. It's not gonna change in the near future. They designed it to be this way. The consumer decides if they want to stay or not. It's obviously not that big of a concern for pretty much everyone (they haven't quit solely for that reason).

By the time new content is released, people will pretty much move on from these specific complaints. It's always been this way with consumers, and history always repeats itself. The sooner people realize this, the much more enjoyable the game (or the time you spend with it) can become. Not so much the community gets better sadly, in fact you'll probably hate the community more as a result LOL.

[Stryker]

But at the same time, any business that's coming out of bankruptcy so to speak treads softly and makes adjustments to continue to grow and regain traction over the long run.

SE would rather make continuous money than frontload it. That won't happen if everyone leaves after a few months due to boredom and artificial caps. Then they just lost all their veteran players and they go under again. Have to keep a good balance between making things hard and making them time sinks. Right now its heavily loaded as a time sink at 50 until you get to coil which sounds like actual fun. Running CM and AK day and night on the other hand do not.

[MushroomSoup]

But at the same time, any business that's coming out of bankruptcy so to speak treads softly and makes adjustments to continue to grow and regain traction over the long run.

SE would rather make continuous money than frontload it. That won't happen if everyone leaves after a few months due to boredom and artificial caps. Then they just lost all their veteran players and they go under again. Have to keep a good balance between making things hard and making them time sinks. Right now its heavily loaded as a time sink at 50 until you get to coil which sounds like actual fun. Running CM and AK day and night on the other hand do not.

I honestly think people are more inclined to leave if they've accomplished everything the game has to offer. So SE is smart for what they've done. They've limited ONE aspect of the game to keep people interested until new content is added.

The amount of players that will leave the game because of one system being capped is no where near the amount of players that would leave the game once they've exhausted everything there is to offer.

[Stryker]

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That's a fair counter argument. I guess ultimately we'll see as to what happens in the coming months.