Monk/Pugilist: Useless Skills

[Jayded]

Until you have a ridiculous amount of Skill Speed (which you shouldn't go out of your way to get...) you only have room for 2 out of stance moves, unless you want to lose Greased Lightning. Those two allowances are taken up by Touch of Death and Fracture. So, unless those two are already up, and you HAPPEN to dodge an ability, Haymaker is incredibly useless.

This. Haymaker is garbage in a group setting.

[Hachiko]

This. Haymaker is garbage in a group setting.

It's not meant for group settings. It's meant to be used while soloing. Without it MNK damage is trash while soloing because they can't rely on the positoinal requirements, and also you don't need Touch of Death while soloing and can probably safely avoid demolish too due to mobs dying quickly.

It's useless in a group/raid setting, but it's fairly useful in a solo setting.

Arm of the destroyer is an interesting skill. I would like to see a video of a monk solo interrupting ADS. It seems like being in the right form for every high voltage would be quite challenging. It seems like having a bard and pld rotate their off gcd silences is going to be much more effective.

As for Haymaker, it should be changed to being off the GCD, usable every 30 seconds, BUT the cooldown resets when you evade an attack.

Bam. Monk now has the ability to use Haymaker in a party setting, while keeping the evasion-theme of the skill when soloing.

Having another 170 potency attack every 30 seconds off of GCD would be a pretty big buff to monks in general... It would be something like 17 the damage contribution of Mercy Stroke. It would probably also make the WAR a viable DPS class...

AFAIK One Ilm Punch doesn't work on any bosses or any significant mobs in PvE, does it?

[Jayded]

It's not meant for group settings. It's meant to be used while soloing. Without it MNK damage is trash while soloing because they can't rely on the positoinal requirements, and also you don't need Touch of Death while soloing and can probably safely avoid demolish too due to mobs dying quickly.

It's useless in a group/raid setting, but it's fairly useful in a solo setting.

Arm of the destroyer is an interesting skill. I would like to see a video of a monk solo interrupting ADS. It seems like being in the right form for every high voltage would be quite challenging. It seems like having a bard and pld rotate their off gcd silences is going to be much more effective.

It's actually pretty easy to use monk positional skills while soloing. I have about an 80% success rate.