What happened to players?

[Hysterior]

In game, I have close to 0% problems, I love the people I play with and I have almost no problem with DF parties. I get some heals when I fight in the environment and I do the same if I see someone could need some help finishing a mob.

The only trouble can come from the places you need to grind 100+ times because people at that point are bored to death but still need those equipment so they force themselves to run this dungeons they hate because they have no other choice to progress and they want to make it as quick as possible

On the forum, it sound like this game is hell, that everybody is trash and people have no idea why they are playing since there seem to be OH SO MANY problems. But in game, you don't see that many complains.

If you want a great experience:

• Stay away from the forum
• Stay away from CM/AK at the moment (the worst gaming habit you could find will be in those 2 dungeons)
• And if you really want to do those CM/AK run NOW, then brace yourself, toughen up and tell yourself is probably temporary

[Jyoeru]

Despite dungeons not offering much reward, I intentionally join them. I even set search criteria to "in-progress." The only time I drop these groups is when the tank does, simply because odds are super low a tank will join an in-progress.

When I roll in, I can usually tell by the boss progress and timer what the group struggled with. I also know that I am a higher-end healer due to my gaming and MMO healing experience. So, I politely explain the fights and heal my butt off. I try to compensate for lower player skill or awareness.

At the same time, if I am doing all of this and being blatantly ignored/trolled, I will question my presence there and move on. I will let people die in fires. I will not rez jerks. I will state my case.

All MMOs need are a little humility and respect. I love it when I help a group beat a dungeon they have clearly struggled with for some time (noted by "FINALLY!" in party chat).

Besides that: I learn how to heal through chaos when I have to heal a subpar group.

[Shadowtrek]

The community on this game isn't very nice, that's for sure. I have found some really good players, though, who don't mind taking their time and enjoying the experience. I don't think people realize (or care) that it's just a game, made for fun and recreation.

[Macho]

I wish you were on my server so you could be in my FC! We are super small because we only want people like you. Willing to take time to help eachother out. Yes we have some people that got to 50 really fast but guess what, they sit there and dungeon with me for 2hrs a day to help me get to 50 too.

The other night we had a sch with us who clearly knew he was not cutting it. We were unaware it was his/her first time in Aurum and we wiped at the first boss (locksmith). A very simple boss yet we died. I realized we forgot to check, he/she admitted it was their first time. I explained and we tried again and 2 more times we wiped..sch going out first each time. S/He offered to leave the duty, obviously feeling bad for us...I'm not going to lie we considered accepting it because heals were just no where close to keeping up and he/she was wiping within a minute or two. At the same time though, I didn't want to be that guy saying yes, maybe it's time you go find another party.

We just all instinctively started moving forward again without saying a word. We get to locksmith and there was a concerted effort from the sch on heals and we made it. We lived, and pushed forward. Coincounter was cake after that, then when we got to to the miser's mistress I took a moment to say "ok, this one's a little different". Sch says, great...another malboro lol. I could sense their dread but we told him/her you got this. It got a little shaky here and there but towards the last 1/4 health we knew we had it. Heals were steady and you could tell we had gotten used to working together. We all congratted the sch whom btw walked out with all healer drops on all the chests and I told him/her way to step your game up.

It was then I was reminded to not get in to that rut of just being concerned about our core group. I asked the sch what server their were on but they weren't on ours. I said transfers are coming soon lol.

We have to remind ourselves at times it's up to us to ensure our community is good. We can work to make it better or we can leave it the way it is.

[Knosis]

I agree that FFXI had a better community. It may have to do with the fact that it REQUIRED TEAMWORK and COMMUNITATION. Join a FATE group and zerg in silence isn't my idea of a good time. I think v1.0's failure discouraged SE from creating something of their own. Instead, they rehashed old MMOs and created an easy game that doesn't rely on communication.

No more traveling to camps by using silence and sneaking behind goblins? No more organizing exp parties? No more communicating in groups? Yea, FFXIV ARR is definatelly no where near as great as FFXI was.

Remember how we got tons of abilities and spells (ex: Fire I, Fire II, Fire III, Firaga I, Firaga II, etc)? The choices were fantastic and the fact that we had to use the abilities to strengthen them was amazing. It used to be a hard game, but they made FFXIV ARR easy mode. It's very sad.

Here's a Phoenix server player wishing luck to all the community gamers who enjoy a challenging and sociable MMO.

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[Cegiana]

I agree that FFXI had a better community. It may have to do with the fact that it REQUIRED TEAMWORK and COMMUNITATION. Join a FATE group and zerg in silence isn't my idea of a good time. I think v1.0's failure discouraged SE from creating something of their own. Instead, they rehashed old MMOs and created an easy game that doesn't rely on communication.

No more traveling to camps by using silence and sneaking behind goblins? No more organizing exp parties? No more communicating in groups? Yea, FFXIV ARR is definatelly no where near as great as FFXI was.
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You keep talking about FFXI in a past tense, you do realize that the game is still up and running and with new content, don't you? If FFXIV isn't as good as FFXI in your eyes, then why are you playing FFXIV instead of FFXI?

In fact FFXI is actually much better now than it has been in the last 10 years, much more content and you arent forced to wait 8 hours to gather 18 people to do the smallest thing anymore. They even have login contests now where you accumlate daily points and you can get rare gear/furnishings or even NM pop items just for logging in daily.

So what are you waiting for? Go to playonline.com and rejoin FFXI since you don't like all the conviences and advanced functions of FFXIV when compared to FFXI.

[Xatsh]

You keep talking about FFXI in a past tense, you do realize that the game is still up and running and with new content, don't you? If FFXIV isn't as good as FFXI in your eyes, then why are you playing FFXIV instead of FFXI?

This argument does not work. Would be like saying if you loved Vanilla WoW and Burning Crusades, WoW is still there. But in reality the game is totally different now.


Most people who state this yet are still here it is because XI was better. Past tense. abysea killed/ruined the whole game, the game has been a shadow of its former self since abysea released and is plagued by the same problems XIV has atm. XI now is a complete joke compaired to how it use to be. If I was to go back to XI with my guild we could get the best of everything in about 2 months.... before abysea we spent 18,900ish hours of scheduled events and never once ran out of progression to do... now there is less then 1000 hrs of content at endgame. The best gear is a drop of a single mob, the gear is more linear, guilds are diminished importance, and there is nothing but instant gratification feed to you. They tried to mainstream a game that was designed for the Hardcores... it is why they lost near 60% of their population in 2yrs. They want to get people to go back to XI, they need to roll the game back 3yrs and remove all the new stuff added.

So XIV has the same problems as XI currently, but XIV has more of a future then XI so it makes sense to stay here. I am playing XIV and subbing, but XI pre abysea was 10fold the game XIV is currently, XIV is twice the game XI is currently.

I honestly wish someone would make a game with as much dept, content, and lasting appeal as old XI, can have new concepts and more modern battle... but the casual only focus is ruining the genre it honestly is. XIV has a very long way to go to even be in the same league as XI was in those regards. The problem is XI was not just a game, XIV is.

[Eekiki]

XIV has a very long way to go to even be in the same league as XI was in those regards.

Did you play FFXI pre-Zilart?

[Uveck]

If you want a great experience:

• Stay away from CM/AK at the moment (the worst gaming habit you could find will be in those 2 dungeons)
• And if you really want to do those CM/AK run NOW, then brace yourself, toughen up and tell yourself is probably temporary

I'm sorry but I can't stay way from CM/AK seeing as they are the only 2 economical end game dungeons ATM...

[Hysterior]

I'm sorry but I can't stay way from CM/AK seeing as they are the only 2 economical end game dungeons ATM...

1/ hence me saying that in that case just no need to complain because everybody is there out of routine for equipment. Nobody enjoy doing it, so nobody feel like being friendly. it's like a bad day at work. You hate it but you still have to because you need the money. hehe
2/ now that they announced the patch and tomes will be available elsewhere you can now sit back and relax and stop running that dungeon until your brain gets numb ^^