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    How about no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    How about no?
    Well since your response was so highly intelligent, are you able to provide more details on why you feel it would be a bad idea? How does this effect you in anyway to warrant such a sarcastic response?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
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    The fact that I have to explain myself here tells me that you shouldn't be allowed to suggest changes, because you clearly haven't thought this through.

    Let's say your changes go through, what is to stop you from simply macroing Flash into your Fast Blade and Riot Blade buttons and then easily holding threat on everything for ever by simply spamming those buttons? Riot Blade combo would keep you full mana, and you could be using Flash on cooldown (Which I notice you didn't suggest changing, so its still at 2.5s?) and so you would have enough single-target agro that Flash would make up the difference, and you would have a pulsing AoE threat generator that you could run forever.

    Your suggestion would not only reduce Paladin to a 2-button rotation, but it would make threat a complete joke instead of fairly easy as it is currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
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    I do not believe you understand how agro works if you believe spamming Fast blade + Riot blade + Flash would be enought o generate proper ST threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    I do not believe you understand how agro works if you believe spamming Fast blade + Riot blade + Flash would be enought o generate proper ST threat.

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    Regardless, it's still a very questionable idea. For the fact you could go crazy at the start dropping 1.5k mana worth of flashes + Halones. Then riot blade it back with your lead. Nothing would ever pull from you.

    @OP; this game has long GCD's because it wants to make meaningful choices with your long GCD's, there is rarely any low cool-down non-GCD linked abilities (if any). Flash for a Paladin is actually one; do you need the AoE threat or the blind, or do you need to use that global on a bigger threat source or survival? Better than just blind-blind-blind-wait-blind because it costs you nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    Regardless, it's still a very questionable idea. For the fact you could go crazy at the start dropping 1.5k mana worth of flashes + Halones. Then riot blade it back with your lead. Nothing would ever pull from you.

    @OP; this game has long GCD's because it wants to make meaningful choices with your long GCD's, there is rarely any low cool-down non-GCD linked abilities (if any). Flash for a Paladin is actually one; do you need the AoE threat or the blind, or do you need to use that global on a bigger threat source or survival? Better than just blind-blind-blind-wait-blind because it costs you nothing.
    Truth is that would not hold threat if that's honestly all you did, especially when you start using riot blade to get your MP back. This argument is what people keep saying, but honestly if flash was off the GCD I highly doubt everyone would suddenly start spamming it and using it over your main abilities. This change is more for convenience sakes rather than a buff or nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
    Truth is that would not hold threat if that's honestly all you did, especially when you start using riot blade to get your MP back. This argument is what people keep saying, but honestly if flash was off the GCD I highly doubt everyone would suddenly start spamming it and using it over your main abilities. This change is more for convenience sakes rather than a buff or nerf.
    If it's off the global it will be spammed in a macro with your REAL threat gen abilities.

    FoF > Normal threat combo (Fast > Savage > Halone) with flash being spammed WHILST that is happening would give you an ABSURD lead. You could riot blade back to full and people wouldn't catch you. People can't catch me now, let alone with 5-6 free flashes chucked in. You wouldn't even need to Riot blade back the mana on a single target fight.

    I agree spamming riot blade would be a scrub tier. But used right this change just makes generating a gap even easier than it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    The fact that I have to explain myself here tells me that you shouldn't be allowed to suggest changes, because you clearly haven't thought this through.

    Let's say your changes go through, what is to stop you from simply macroing Flash into your Fast Blade and Riot Blade buttons and then easily holding threat on everything for ever by simply spamming those buttons? Riot Blade combo would keep you full mana, and you could be using Flash on cooldown (Which I notice you didn't suggest changing, so its still at 2.5s?) and so you would have enough single-target agro that Flash would make up the difference, and you would have a pulsing AoE threat generator that you could run forever.

    Your suggestion would not only reduce Paladin to a 2-button rotation, but it would make threat a complete joke instead of fairly easy as it is currently.
    How rude and that wouldn't work, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to respond to suggestions....

    To the OP, flash works fine as it is. Taking it off the GCD would only serve to make things easier, which is not necessary.
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    Last edited by Omagana; 10-11-2013 at 03:25 PM.