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    To pure crafters complaining.

    If you wanna play "Crafting: The game" please go elsewhere, this is Final Fantasy and the main purpose of this game is to kill stuff, crafting should always be second priority and a side thing.

    inb4 "Final Fantasy is a world and every aspects of it should be equal" no, shut up. We're supposed to go kill big stuff. (This is why people bought the game. your vision of the game cannot be sustained because it sucks)

    Crafting shouldn't be the only means of obtaining good gear, deal with it.
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  2. #132
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    Guys, you don't have to take away class status from crafters and harvesters. All SE needs to do is make main scenario quests for battle types and then another set for non battle types. That way the battle main scenario is actually challenging and the crafters are actually involved in stuff having to do with actual crafting/gathering as opposed to wrist flicking an enemy encounter and/or watching NPCs kill something.

    Either way, this game is soloable and we still have to contend with main scenario quests that a soloist can do. But that, as it were, is a completely different discussion topic. The only reason I even mention this is because it seems like some posters are looking for a scapegoat to blame the ease of storyline missions on and crafters are the easy target. It isn't because of crafters, it is because of SE's (over?) dedication to making sure the game is solo friendly.

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    To pure crafters complaining.

    If you wanna play "Crafting: The game" please go elsewhere, this is Final Fantasy and the main purpose of this game is to kill stuff, crafting should always be second priority and a side thing.

    inb4 "Final Fantasy is a world and every aspects of it should be equal" no, shut up. We're supposed to go kill big stuff. (This is why people bought the game. your vision of the game cannot be sustained because it sucks)

    Crafting shouldn't be the only means of obtaining good gear, deal with it.
    I think people who come to a game built a certain way and then tell those who are playing the game the way it was built to be played to "go elsewhere" should take their own advice. But that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    To pure crafters complaining.

    If you wanna play "Crafting: The game" please go elsewhere, this is Final Fantasy and the main purpose of this game is to kill stuff, crafting should always be second priority and a side thing.

    inb4 "Final Fantasy is a world and every aspects of it should be equal" no, shut up. We're supposed to go kill big stuff. (This is why people bought the game. your vision of the game cannot be sustained because it sucks)

    Crafting shouldn't be the only means of obtaining good gear, deal with it.
    Nail, meet head. Agreed 100%
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I think people who come to a game built a certain way and then tell those who are playing the game the way it was built to be played to "go elsewhere" should take their own advice. But that's just my opinion.
    tell me about it
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    To pure crafters complaining.

    If you wanna play "Crafting: The game" please go elsewhere, this is Final Fantasy and the main purpose of this game is to kill stuff, crafting should always be second priority and a side thing.

    inb4 "Final Fantasy is a world and every aspects of it should be equal" no, shut up. We're supposed to go kill big stuff. (This is why people bought the game. your vision of the game cannot be sustained because it sucks)

    Crafting shouldn't be the only means of obtaining good gear, deal with it.
    I disagree with your opinion.
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    If "Final Fantasy 14" didn't put crafters in the same realm as fighters noone would be complaining. SE is the one who elevated crafters putting them the same league and storyline as dd's. Crafter's deserve better if they are going to do this. Either elevate crafters by offering equal treatment to all or take it away as a class. Offering Main Storyline Missions to DoL, DoH, and DoW/DoM. That's what would balance things better. Everyone would have a Storyline catered to their individual class they choose to play on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gracious View Post
    If "Final Fantasy 14" didn't put crafters in the same realm as fighters noone would be complaining. SE is the one who elevated crafters putting them the same league and storyline as dd's. Crafter's deserve better if they are going to do this. Either elevate crafters by offering equal treatment to all or take it away as a class. Offering Main Storyline Missions to DoL, DoH, and DoW/DoM. That's what would balance things better. Everyone would have a Storyline catered to their individual class they choose to play on.
    Nobody just plays on one class though! There are hardly any pure crafters around.

    As such, SE should just make the storyline progression tied to DoW and DoM classes, and if pure crafters want to participate, they should simply be required to hire someone to fight the fights for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Nobody just plays on one class though! There are hardly any pure crafters around.

    As such, SE should just make the storyline progression tied to DoW and DoM classes, and if pure crafters want to participate, they should simply be required to hire someone to fight the fights for them.
    Some players do just play one class. None said you have to play more then 1 class in order to play this game. I know alot of dd's that don't want to craft. Why should crafters be the one's that are hindered when the game said "Look we value you as much as dd's, you have your own class now". Crafter's / Gather's should not have to pay ppl to complete the same missions dd's can complete. Fair play would be equal to everyone no matter the class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gracious View Post
    Some players do just play one class. None said you have to play more then 1 class in order to play this game. I know alot of dd's that don't want to craft. Why should crafters be the one's that are hindered when the game said "Look we value you as much as dd's, you have your own class now". Crafter's / Gather's should not have to pay ppl to complete the same missions dd's can complete. Fair play would be equal to everyone no matter the class.
    By that token, DDs shouldnt have to pay crafters to make the same crafts that crafters can make.

    They each have their realm of expertise.
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