End game... Bored. The facts.

[Ladon]

The whole "rush to cap and raid" gameplay is dead. Maybe play the game less than 8 hours a day doing fates over and over again until you hate the game. Just glad I got over the whole rushing to cap to raid when it was viable.

Some of you guys do realize this is the second version of FF14 right?

[Yuichi]

I never grow tired of seeing people rush to lvl cap to complete everything asap then complaining nothing to do. I have yet to play an MMO where this does not happen aside from FFXI. Your own fault nothing to do because you rushed it.

[coffeepotz]

So what is up with all the people on Sargatanas? I believe the most complaining comes from that server.

[Ladon]

So what is up with all the people on Sargatanas? I believe the most complaining comes from that server.

It's a Legacy server?

[Recycler]

That's why i liked XI so much, because even though it was kinda bad in ways, it was completely unique and that's what made it fun rather than being like every other MMO.

Fact of the matter is YoshiP deliberately opted in favour of a "safe" MMO, which is replicating features from established MMOs, a bit of adjusting, and putting a FF skin on it. Considering how 1.0 went, it is understandable, though I'm not really happy with it. In my opinion what we have now is ~mediocre, and I don't see that much interesting stuff on the horizon. I still hope for Crystal Tower being absolutely awesome

[Stryker]

Some of you guys do realize this is the second version of FF14 right?

This. They rebuilt the game from scratch and already had in mind that a large group of players were already at end game, with new players coming in they purposely made lvls 1-49 to be a joke. If that's the case then is there really an excuse for poor foresight in this situation? Remember this is their 2nd iteration of the same game.

That's not to say that the game isn't enjoyable. Personally I like the game so far since I haven't cleared things as quickly as everyone else. But if I were in many of these peoples shoes who have the time to commit more than a few hours a night then I would be upset. If I was still in school like I was when 11 came out and cleared everything that quickly then I would be peeved too. So the OP does have a valid point.

[Onolock]

For me right now it's really log on Monday, knock out Coil 1-4 in an hour, 4 AK runs and log off. Since T5 is down right now, this week is pretty much shot. I'm working on leveling other classes, but this is a poor excuse for endgame that yes most MMO's have trended to.

Fact is, I would have rather had a launch in November with CT and Coil, with BL coming in 2.2 + extra content to the existing dungeons. What gets me is releasing CT(a raid that will more than likely drop Ilvl 80 gear and be easier than your current content). It won't be long before Twintania is on farm now that she will be getting fixed. So basically, it's log in and clear Coil + CT in a night, cap Myth and wait for 2.2.

2.2 is going to decide a lot about the game, and they need to release their plans for at least the first year so the community can see what kind of direction they are taking the game. It's a fantastic game, but it wasn't ready for a full release with the lack of content imo.

It's like companies don't look at why other MMO's fail before making their own(Rift, Tera, Warhammer, AoC)

[traja]

Yeah....it doesn't matter the specific timeframe. If you "rush" through content without bothering to do lateral progression, you're rushing and doing it wrong...at least in this game.

The entire conflict in this thread is about the core game mechanic for FF XIV: it's designed to get you to develop more than a single job. If you decide not to play that mechanic, I really have only 2 things to say to you:....

Try and stay away from making silly ad hominem arguments, not helping your case.

Every MMO has "lateral progression", we call it rolling an alt. The only difference here is that it's all in one character and that instead of redoing your quests you just farm FATEs all day every day. It really isn't anything revolutionary and it won't save the game anymore than it has saved any of the other games that tried to have rerolling as their main end game.

[Kayo]

lol, so basically you hate all current end game content and are already hating the upcoming content before you even tried it.

Why are you even here?

[Orsnoire]

Try and stay away from making silly ad hominem arguments, not helping your case.

Every MMO has "lateral progression", we call it rolling an alt. The only difference here is that it's all in one character and that instead of redoing your quests you just farm FATEs all day every day. It really isn't anything revolutionary and it won't save the game anymore than it has saved any of the other games that tried to have rerolling as their main end game.

The difference is, rolling alts in a different game doesn't give you benefit for your main. So no, it's not at all the same thing.

The fact that you believe it is betrays your misunderstanding of the basic premise of XIV.

Just a REALLY obvious case in point: if player A doesn't have his or her cross class abilities done, then he or she is quite literally gimped for endgame content, and has objectively not finished even basic progress for his or her primary job.

That person then claiming that this game has nothing to do and that they've run out of content is ignoring their own most basic progress, and, as I said before, is doing it wrong.

Edit: also, it's poisoning the well, not ad hominem. Pointing out a clearly observable fact (your level) isn't an attack on you personally. It undermines your credibility, but that's why it's a poisoning the well fallacy and not ad hominem. Try to actually understand what fallacies you're going to call people on before using them, as it further undermines your credibility when you use them inappropriately.

(fun fact: your statement

not helping your case

is a poisoning the well fallacy as well, so hey pot, this is kettle, you're black)