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    Eriane's Avatar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    I'm not asking for equal Healing, I am asking for equal opportunity of in-efficient Heals. As in stands, a Scholar has a higher probability of casting a Heal that is in-efficient because they cannot choose to Heal or to Shield. They have to do both and quite often, you don't need to. Sometimes the player is at full HP and damage is incoming, so I'd like to Shield, or in another circumstance a group of people take damage and you'd like to Heal them, but you know there won't be damage within the next 30s, so in both circumstances, you have in-efficient Heals. While a WHM can simply Stoneskin, which is better than a non-crit Adloquim or Medica I/Medica II which is better than a Succor.

    What they need to do, is either increase the length of the Shield or allow for ways for a % of Over-heal to be converted to Shield.
    How can a sch not choose to heal or shield? How is using physick and fairy embrace not similar to cure 2 just faster because the fairy heal is instant and goes off first, not to mention free. Granted fairy management is a pain.

    And since when is stoneskin better? Its not mana efficient on a class that already has mana issues, its also a cross skill, and only really worth using on a tank.

    Whm excel at raid healing, no argument there but your fairy has an aoe regen aswell, granted its a long cd but its free.

    Also in-efficient healing? what? regens don't cause a ton of overhealing if used incorrectly? Regardless of options to restore health a hot can easily become an over healing threat generating issue but shields can never be inconvienent.
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    Lusian Royalt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane View Post
    How can a sch not choose to heal or shield? How is using physick and fairy embrace not similar to cure 2 just faster because the fairy heal is instant and goes off first, not to mention free. Granted fairy management is a pain.

    And since when is stoneskin better? Its not mana efficient on a class that already has mana issues, its also a cross skill, and only really worth using on a tank.

    Whm excel at raid healing, no argument there but your fairy has an aoe regen aswell, granted its a long cd but its free.

    Also in-efficient healing? what? regens don't cause a ton of overhealing if used incorrectly? Regardless of options to restore health a hot can easily become an over healing threat generating issue but shields can never be inconvienent.
    Fairy heal is not instant, has a cast time and a 3 sec cd, and if you command the fairy to heal a specific target shift the fairy out of steady stance meaning that the first moment it gets will cast/waste its aoe hot.
    WHM do not have mana issues unless the group is taking unnecessary dmg OR the WHM is using the wrong set of heals and over healing. Also, SS is actually pretty damn good, the only drawback is actually its cast time. If it were shorter I'd use it during combat.
    Raid healing isn't and shouldn't be a niche, it is part of the role, this is the issue a lot of us are having with the class. It has an incomplete healing kit. Precasting Succor is one thing and it is fine for that but it is very lackluster and weak when dmg has already been dealt. Succor doesn't block much.

    If you don't know what a lot of people take issue with or even the class mechanics, why comment at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alu79 View Post
    Fairy heal is not instant, has a cast time and a 3 sec cd, and if you command the fairy to heal a specific target shift the fairy out of steady stance meaning that the first moment it gets will cast/waste its aoe hot.
    WHM do not have mana issues unless the group is taking unnecessary dmg OR the WHM is using the wrong set of heals and over healing. Also, SS is actually pretty damn good, the only drawback is actually its cast time. If it were shorter I'd use it during combat.
    Raid healing isn't and shouldn't be a niche, it is part of the role, this is the issue a lot of us are having with the class. It has an incomplete healing kit. Precasting Succor is one thing and it is fine for that but it is very lackluster and weak when dmg has already been dealt. Succor doesn't block much.

    If you don't know what a lot of people take issue with or even the class mechanics, why comment at all?

    There are plently of posts and forums topics on fairy management, no one is saying it doesn't need fixes, but there are scholars saying they manage to use it. Regardless it is a way to single target heal without shields.

    IF is an interesting word for saying you would use a spell. If stoneskin was better i would use it too.

    Whm's have plenty of mana issues, moreso IF we try to use things like "pretty damn good" spells like stoneskin.

    Any healer including a sch will not have issues or as many issues if the group isn't taking unnesessary dmg and doing content they are geared for....
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    Last edited by Eriane; 10-10-2013 at 03:19 AM. Reason: Length