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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    Provoke + Shield Lob + RoH
    So, this is a Warrior asking the question... we don't have Provoke + Shield Lob + RoH, but thanks uh... for the input?

    For CM AoE tanking, I usually hit em with a couple overpowers. If you can unchained, zerk, and overpower spam 3-4 times on the trash and let your group aoe everything down. Then work your tab combo chain. You should not loose threat on any of them. Also it will be fun to watch the pally sitting there twiddling there thumbs until you get to the main bosses.

    I normally only use flash when pacified from zerk or TP starved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayman View Post
    So, this is a Warrior asking the question... we don't have Provoke + Shield Lob + RoH, but thanks uh... for the input?
    Uhh...You have Provoke + Tomahawk + BB which is almost effectively identical but thanks uh....for...nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    Uhh...You have Provoke + Tomahawk + BB which is almost effectively identical but thanks uh....for...nothing?
    Provoke is a terrible opener for any tank. Since it puts you at the top of the enmity list +1 it means that initial shot is only granting you 1 enmity. Save it for the occasions it's meant for: Tank swapping, getting hate after a death, pulling succubus from miiiiiiiiiiiles away or grabbing hate after an unexpected loss!

    For War I find the easiest is: Tomohawk>Overpower if in a group (making sure i hit them all or do 2 if i don't)>BB Combo>Overpower if in group>Maim combo>fracture>Overpower if group> BB combo
    People say you really need flash as a war but overpower is much more effective. For the sake of taking 2 steps to a different position you generat much more hate than a war using flash. Yes it breaks cc but if you are unable to avoid hitting cc mobs with a frontal cone attack tanking is not for you!

    For PLD here's what I use: Shield Lob>Flash>Spirits within (seriously it;s the best time to use it! You're at 100%hp so 300 potency with oth multiplier and so many still dont do it)>Flash>CoS>RoHx2>Flash

    Since Spirits within and CoS are off the GCD thats a really quick rapid fire of skills grabbing everything around you in about 15~.

    But it's all situational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    Uhh...You have Provoke + Tomahawk + BB which is almost effectively identical but thanks uh....for...nothing?
    Listen, I tried to be nice. BUT STFU. You are giving out HORRID information because you can tank as ANOTHER class.

    If you had to use provoke, tomahawk + BB means you are gonna loose threat right away again. If yer in a scramble and need to hit prov, Prov to Zerk (if possible) to OP(upto x3 depending on sit), then BB x 3 Storm X 1 combos will win every day over your crap idea. BUT of course, you know this with all your experience as a WAR tanking, and talking to a WAR about WAR threat.

    GTFO, yer either too arrogant/stupid to know when to shut yer yap, or yer a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayman View Post
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    Never were you once nice, you just weren't overtly text-yelling at me to begin with.

    I do have a WAR, btw.

    Also: OP=120 potency attack x3 enmity. Tomahawk = 130 potency x3 enmity. It certainly produces more enmity to a single target. Berserk will give the same modifier to either one.

    Also, Tomahawk range = 15 yalms | OP range = 8 yalms, if the mob is running away from you, Tomahawk has a better chance of hitting it, with a shorter animation time, which gives you a much higher chance of getting the mob at least heading back towards you.

    Also, A BB COMBO takes 3 GCDs! LOL, you are going for SNAP aggro, not consistent enmity generation. Really, you are going to lose enmity by doing 890 potency enmity in 2 GCDs (Tomahawk+BB), as opposed to 510 (OP+HS) in 2 GCDs? Of course you start in on your BB combo after you get the mob back to you to solidify aggro, but you need to snap it with your highest enmity in the shortest time to start.
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