Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
But in dungeons, even 5 seconds is LONG time in this game.
I've run against relic+1 DPS while using an Ifrit weapon and never had to use Provoke on adds or trash while doing any dungeon. There are only 3 real reasons you might have issues: (1) DPS attacking a non-focus target, (2) DPS attacking ST when you're AoEing or vice versa, or (3) the tank hasn't learned to target swap to maintain smaller aggro on non-focus targets while maintaining a large amount of enmity on the focus target. If you know how to tank, you don't need Provoke for enmity generation outside of tank swaps and death recovery. Knowing how to spam Halone is not the same as knowing how to tank; you may have found a weird strategy that lets you get away with not knowing how to tank optimally, but that's not the same as actually having Provoke be useful in a situation where you actually *do* know what you're doing.

I've been running without Provoke on my WAR for over 3 weeks (ever since I got Internal Release) and have never lamented not having it. I don't even use it when I'm playing PLD because I simply never need to. If you need to and there isn't an explicit fight mechanic that demands it, you're doing something wrong.