Cheating & Harrasment - The Wanderer's Palace - Viceroy Malice ( Paladin )

[Discordia]

You get a 15 minutes penalty for being the first person to leave/abandon the dungeon, only the first person though. In other words, what he described is that the Tank went AFK and force someone else to leave the party and then he can leave as the second person without the 15-mins penalty.

This never worked for me. Even if I was the third to leave the group, I would get the debuff. In other words, I'm thinking, if you ALT+F4 instead, you could be considered as d/c (or you can disable network in Windows to get the d/c effect) and those players don't get an abandonment debuff and that means the next person who "voluntarily" leaves will get it.

[Asdamine]

This never worked for me. Even if I was the third to leave the group, I would get the debuff. In other words, I'm thinking, if you ALT+F4 instead, you could be considered as d/c (or you can disable network in Windows to get the d/c effect) and those players don't get an abandonment debuff and that means the next person who "voluntarily" leaves will get it.

It's very possible, I have never considered this possibility. But that person cannot log on for some time before the system automatically kick the "dc" out of the group. Last time I saw someone dc, it took 10 mins to kick him out. So in effect, it is still a penalty (for not logging on and get back into the dungeon), albeit less than the "volunteer".

In my opinion, there is no harm done to the tanks in this game since a 15 mins penalty is equivalent to a bathroom break and they could instant join at queue (I always instant join in duty finder as Paladin, without wait time ever exceeding 1 minute) while other classes have to wait 40 mins to an hour for a dungeon (on top of the penalty - even worse). So, the 15 mins penalty hurts more to other class than the Tanks.