Legit Players Banned/Punished due to RMT *FOR DUMMIES: A GUIDE*

[Divinemight]

What a load of garbage. So many guilty people admit to being guilty. And so many innocent people fight for their legitimate innocence. Just recently a load of people were released from prison because they were found innocent upon the revelation of newly acquired DNA evidence. You don't live in a black and white world, snap out of it.

Truth is, you need to either relax or quit this game. You are not getting your gils back in any mean. S/E clearly stated that gil invovled in RMT transaction are counterfiet. In real life, good luck to you if you try to claim counterfiet loss from a bank or government. Many business just put it to loss.

If gils are that easy to make as you claim they are. The time you spend on here complaining already let you to recover the loss.

[Overon]

Truth is, you need to either relax or quit this game. You are not getting your gils back in any mean. S/E clearly stated that gil invovled in RMT transaction are counterfiet. In real life, good luck to you if you try to claim counterfiet loss from a bank or government. Many business just put it to loss.

If gils are that easy to make as you claim they are. The time you spend on here complaining already let you to recover the loss.

In real life if you have Counterfeit Money , ownership is 9/10ths of the law , those who have it are guilty of it no matter innocent or not .
I agree with everything you say ^^

Those who ended up with "Bought Gil" and just getting suspended and getting their gil gained by RMT taken , with them buying it or not .........

[funkin]

Truth is, you need to either relax or quit this game. You are not getting your gils back in any mean. S/E clearly stated that gil invovled in RMT transaction are counterfiet. In real life, good luck to you if you try to claim counterfiet loss from a bank or government. Many business just put it to loss.

If gils are that easy to make as you claim they are. The time you spend on here complaining already let you to recover the loss.

I'm not going to try to make more money in-game when it's unresolved how to avoid having it removed again. I'd be asking for more trouble by doing that, now wouldn't I? Which is pretty much entirely why I bother posting: to discuss what happened with other players and to see if anyone receives an official response. It's not just the previous loss that matters, it's the precedent that's been set and what it means to play the game with that knowledge. It's not the same anymore, because it's unclear how to safely acquire enough gil for a future mansion. And until that's resolved, I won't play. Indefinitely, if that's the case.

In terms of my level of relaxation, I appreciate the concern! But if anything, I can use the pump -- it's about time to work out. RAHHH! Although to be honest, forum dialogue doesn't really get me going like some of you seem to think it does. If it did, I probably would avoid participating on the forums, because discussing this stuff with other members of the community, while at times can be enlightening, is really not useful (at least in this situation). No one here can do anything about this issue.

[Lux_Rayna]

I'm not going to try to make more money in-game when it's unresolved how to avoid having it removed again.

It only gets removed if the majority of ingame gil is from RMT. Think about it like this: it should mathematically be improbable for you to make X amount of gil in Y amount of time, because there is Z amount of gil being produced from leves/quests in the economy. If Z, X, and Y are significantly higher than projected, then an overwhelming % of the gil you buy/sell/trade with is RMT driven. This means it has to get nuked to the level where you *should* be at.

Thing is they didnt even nuke all of it. They just nuked it down to a manageable level.

[funkin]

It only gets removed if the majority of ingame gil is from RMT. Think about it like this: it should mathematically be improbable for you to make X amount of gil in Y amount of time, because there is Z amount of gil being produced from leves/quests in the economy. If Z, X, and Y are significantly higher than projected, then an overwhelming % of the gil you buy/sell/trade with is RMT driven. This means it has to get nuked to the level where you *should* be at.

Thing is they didnt even nuke all of it. They just nuked it down to a manageable level.

This "math" isn't right. which is why you assume making this gil isn't possible without RMT. Look at just ONE scenario where it's easy to make millions:

Thousands of people per server. Lots of level 50s. People mismanaging money so badly that they post about problems with gil fountains on the forums. You don't think 200 people can spend 25k gil each? That's 5 million gil. Imagine you reached level 50 Gatherer before most people, and all these people hitting level 50 in combat classes want better gear, and they are sitting on 200-300k gil. Every big FC has a few 50 crafters. Every town has crafters offering their services. The combat players talk to them, ask them what mats they need to craft something, and then buy those mats on the market.

That's just one way for me, as a Botanist, to have made gil. This doesn't include selling to crafters who then make stuff to sell on the market, and use their profits so they can buy more materials and repeat the process. This doesn't include selling Grade 3 Carbonized Matter, which EVERYONE needs for materia melding. I've literally sold thousands of carbonized matters, and they sell for anywhere between 100-1000gil each depending on the market, usually around 200gil lately.

There are so many ways to make money if you think about it, and none of them *have* to involve RMT. You don't need to buy gil to spend 5k on carbonized matter. You don't need to buy gil to spend 10k on HQ logs or crawler cocoons.

Edit: My point isn't that RMT isn't an issue, my point is that for me to assume my sales were going to gil-buyers doesn't make sense.

It is simple enough, stay away from items that selling for couple of millions...... This game simply does not have that gigantic gil fountain to begin with.

Not true. I haven't made one sale for over 100k. I don't think I even went over 70k for a single sale actually.

[Divinemight]

I'm not going to try to make more money in-game when it's unresolved how to avoid having it removed again. I'd be asking for more trouble by doing that, now wouldn't I? Which is pretty much entirely why I bother posting: to discuss what happened with other players and to see if anyone receives an official response. It's not just the previous loss that matters, it's the precedent that's been set and what it means to play the game with that knowledge. It's not the same anymore, because it's unclear how to safely acquire enough gil for a future mansion. And until that's resolved, I won't play. Indefinitely, if that's the case.

It is simple enough, stay away from items that selling for couple of millions...... This game simply does not have that gigantic gil fountain to begin with.