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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    So based on what you say, I should have been suspended/banned myself because I sold something on the market to a gil buyer?
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    Kender Lightbeam
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    So based on what you say, I should have been suspended/banned myself because I sold something on the market to a gil buyer?
    ...this isn't an opinion on the situation, this is what is currently happening to people.

    If you are making gil from a person who has gil that has been obtained from a source that is RMT, SE can take it from you.

    It's like getting a fake 20 dollar bill from a gas station.
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucroarna View Post
    ...this isn't an opinion on the situation, this is what is currently happening to people.
    Other side of the coin is, I don't believe half of the ppl telling their story as this is the internet. Cheaters love to play the cry innocence game and unfortunately SE doesn't share their investigations to the public and never will.
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    Rite Neow
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    Adamantoise
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Other side of the coin is, I don't believe half of the ppl telling their story as this is the internet. Cheaters love to play the cry innocence game and unfortunately SE doesn't share their investigations to the public and never will.
    This.
    I've been crafting for a long time, and selling things on the market for just as long. I didn't get suspended, banned, or gil confiscated. Knowing my situation just makes it hard for me to believe all these people complaining about it on the forums aren't guilty.
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    Mefit Darkendmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanga View Post
    This.
    I've been crafting for a long time, and selling things on the market for just as long. I didn't get suspended, banned, or gil confiscated. Knowing my situation just makes it hard for me to believe all these people complaining about it on the forums aren't guilty.
    I have friends who now have over a couple million in this game made from launch of 2.0 to now , they are still playing and crafting .
    Its hard to not pass judgment when a small minority gets punished and the rest are still playing the game ....

    If SE does anything there will always be those who will cry innocent.
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    Discordia's Avatar
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    Mio Kuromi
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Other side of the coin is, I don't believe half of the ppl telling their story as this is the internet. Cheaters love to play the cry innocence game and unfortunately SE doesn't share their investigations to the public and never will.
    Unfortunately, I will have to agree with this sentiment. I don't disbelieve that there is a segment of the populace that is genuinely innocent and wrongfully punished, but due to the sheer number of warp hacking, botting, speed hacking and RMT activities that I observe every night, it's almost impossible for me to take sides on this issue. No one has been forthcoming in their totality to prove their innocence one way or another and SE hasn't come out with their side of the story.


    Just wanted to add that I have witnessed hackers and botters that were members of legitimate Free Companies (at least on Siren), so just because someone is of a Free Company or you *knew* from a previous MMO does not mean that they are above or beyond the capability of running afoul of the TOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    No one has been forthcoming in their totality to prove their innocence one way or another and SE hasn't come out with their side of the story.
    Please tell me how it is possible for us to prove what we say is true?
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    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Please tell me how it is possible for us to prove what we say is true?
    the only thing that matters is if you CANT prove it to random strangers in this forum, WHY do you EXPECT them to believe you?

    take it to SE and move on - anything else is creating drama without proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    the only thing that matters is if you CANT prove it to random strangers in this forum, WHY do you EXPECT them to believe you?

    take it to SE and move on - anything else is creating drama without proof
    If you read my previous comments and others.

    You will see that it is near impossible to "take it to SE", therefore this forum is the last place we have to try and get a response.

    I also think other players deserve to know what is happening.
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    Celes Reinhardt
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Sheesh. I think I'll hold off on selling any more tome items for the time being then (animal fat, potash, peacock ore, etc.).
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