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    I don't see how you cannot immediately recognize the importance of #1 when looking at the data for #2. Going from #1 to #2 we have an increase in both dex and parry yet the Parry rate for #2 is less than #2. If we believe that no thresholds were hit, they share the same mean. The parry rate for #2 is highly unlikely to be 25% (2.957 sigma away). If we assume a parry rate of 23%, then test falls outside a 3 sigma range. We know that #2 must be greater or equal to #1. If we assume it is 24% for both, both values are within 1.5 sigma of mean and very acceptable values.


    The fact that you say #1 is irrelevant makes me think that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The numbers have to reconcile with each other. Do you actually think you'll get a good convergence on 5000 trials? We're dealing with ~+-2% at this n at these parry rates. The problem is not the method of the test. The problem is that to have a good convergence on the mean is that we're going to need somewhere in the vicinity of 100,000 trials which would take literally days and days of non-stop parsing. This is why #1 is so important. With #1 and #2, we can establish with some confidence that the parry rate for the two of them is 24%. Once we go beyond this point, we're speculating largely. We can rule out possibilities but that's really about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coramac View Post
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    So, you really need #1 to know that ? Comnon sens isn't an option ?
    #1 and #2 just show how 5000 is not enough (and maybe the fact that lvl 37 mobs aren't the best for this purpose but it would be incredibly hard to parse for a day against lvl 50 mobs) so yeah, sorry, I'll say it again, it's not needed, it's freaking obvious.
    For 2 to 5 and 3 to 4, you get 4.72 and 3.55. With those numbers you can only assume that going from ~210 to ~240 gives you something around 3.

    Or show me a damn formula saying that going from 23.19 to 27.91 when everything else stays the same means you only have a 1 more.
    If everything else stays the same (which is the case) then it's not complicated. You're troubling yourself with #1 for no reason. Those numbers are bad if you want to use it as a control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaalan View Post
    So, you really need #1 to know that ? Comnon sens isn't an option ?
    #1 and #2 just show how 5000 is not enough (and maybe the fact that lvl 37 mobs aren't the best for this purpose but it would be incredibly hard to parse for a day against lvl 50 mobs) so yeah, sorry, I'll say it again, it's not needed, it's freaking obvious.
    For 2 to 5 and 3 to 4, you get 4.72 and 3.55. With those numbers you can only assume that going from ~210 to ~240 gives you something around 3.

    Or show me a damn formula saying that going from 23.19 to 27.91 when everything else stays the same means you only have a 1 more.
    If everything else stays the same (which is the case) then it's not complicated. You're troubling yourself with #1 for no reason. Those numbers are bad if you want to use it as a control.
    You don't understand statistics do you?

    Additionally, my post shows that it is my belief that it is not going from 23.19% to 27.91% but rather 24% to 27% on an increase of 50 dex (probably 45 in best case). Please show me a ring that does this.
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    Last edited by Coramac; 10-08-2013 at 04:06 AM.