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[Jinko]

Can you please explain how it's illogical to assume one company can go ahead with their game because they don't have to waste time redesigning it while the other cannot? It's common sense. So if that's an excuse then game development studios have been using this excuse since the 70s since they pretty much determined you can't progress forward if you have to step backwards to revamp.

I feel you missed the point I was trying to make, let me make it simple.

Yes SE have to redevelop this game, because they made a mistake, that is their fault (they had so much feedback in beta and they didn't listen to it), Tera in comparison didn't make the same mistakes during development so they don't have to reinvest the time to change a broken game.

Sure things take time to fix and set right but that's stating the obvious, I'm not really sure what you want me to say, thanks SE your doing a great job? I don't think so.

There is two distinct sides to the posts in this thread, one is very understanding and forgiving and the other has had enough and is generally unhappy, neither side is right or wrong but if people want to vent their displeasure then don't take it on yourself to make us feel like we shouldn't be allowed an opinion.

[viion]

Use your head, good god lol.

If you have to redesign THE FUNDAMENTALS, you can't build content on what is being redesigned because there's a GOOD CHANCE you can't just "adjust" it later, which is why any content addition that's been added recently, i.e the side quests are utilizing pre-existing mechanics and it's nothing "brand new".

This is why, as Yoshida and everyone else at SE has said, when the Battle System is done, they can finally begin focusing on everything else. They have different teams but you also have to realize they rely on each other. If I'm making animations for a system that on longer exists...then what?

I didnt know stuff like that prevents someone from making a new area. Poor, poor team. *Cant open 3ds max until new battle system is done!!*

[Physic]

Use your head, good god lol.

If you have to redesign THE FUNDAMENTALS, you can't build content on what is being redesigned because there's a GOOD CHANCE you can't just "adjust" it later, which is why any content addition that's been added recently, i.e the side quests are utilizing pre-existing mechanics and it's nothing "brand new".

This is why, as Yoshida and everyone else at SE has said, when the Battle System is done, they can finally begin focusing on everything else. They have different teams but you also have to realize they rely on each other. If I'm making animations for a system that on longer exists...then what?

this is not really true, redesigning battle has little no effect on designing clothes, weapons, areas, story. You could say it might effect battle quests, but thats about as far as it goes.
The truth is, they are holding back content, because either they want to, or they are having/had had serious issues behind the scenes with workers/management/etc. The game is basically the same game content wise as when it shipped, most of the additions we have now were completed or in development when tanaka left. They have a number of assets in game that they have never used. They have missions and leves completed that they never released. the game already has enough content for a cap raise.

Basically what im getting at, is even if this team has done nothing in 5 months, they have content they could have released just from what was available. Them not releasing content has little to do with battle adjustments, and more to do with a descion not to release any real new content. Most likely, they are saving it for ps3, or for a large announcement and a coordinated marketing push. There is no other explanation why there is stuff in the game already designed, that is not being used.

[Elexia]

I didnt know stuff like that prevents someone from making a new area. Poor, poor team. *Cant open 3ds max until new battle system is done!!*

Yeah you're missing the point purposefully.

If the foundation of the game is broken, why would it prevent the map team from working? It can prevent the event team from working if they want to utilize the battle system for the said content they're making. What if the animations I'm working on is to be tied to a system or cutscene that no longer is present?

Seriously, think about it for a second - Look at FFXI, don't you think it kind of SHOWS they could progress XIV now if they didn't have to spend time redesigning shit that shouldn't have been messed up to begin with?

By now, within all 3 MMOs they ran we would be anxiously awaiting our first expansion pack in 5 more months, not waiting for a base system to be remade so they can move forward.

[Physic]

Yeah you're missing the point purposefully.

If the foundation of the game is broken, why would it prevent the map team from working? It can prevent the event team from working if they want to utilize the battle system for the said content they're making. What if the animations I'm working on is to be tied to a system or cutscene that no longer is present?

there is no reason to change a cutscene due to battle changes?

[Jennestia]

there is no reason to change a cutscene due to battle changes?

Correct. There is however, a reason to do so if you change the renderer of the engine which it was mentioned recently they're doing tweaks to the engine currently - her post said nothing about animations and cutscenes tied to a battle system, the point that I drew was if there's a heavy disconnect between the teams, one team could waste their time doing something which could further delay things.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Anyone have any ideas about where this new Dungeon may be on the map?

[Jennestia]

Anyone have any ideas about where this new Dungeon may be on the map?

There's a few "Cannot Enter" places around but it could also pull what they did with XI and plop some kind of gateway or portal in an existing dungeons, like say going through Den of Rancor to reach the Sacrificial Chambers.

[Shyd]

I feel you missed the point I was trying to make, let me make it simple.

Yes SE have to redevelop this game, because they made a mistake, that is their fault (they had so much feedback in beta and they didn't listen to it), Tera in comparison didn't make the same mistakes during development so they don't have to reinvest the time to change a broken game.

Sure things take time to fix and set right but that's stating the obvious, I'm not really sure what you want me to say, thanks SE your doing a great job? I don't think so.

There is two distinct sides to the posts in this thread, one is very understanding and forgiving and the other has had enough and is generally unhappy, neither side is right or wrong but if people want to vent their displeasure then don't take it on yourself to make us feel like we shouldn't be allowed an opinion.

joo be soo negative all the time.

if you hate SE so much, why do you keep playing their games, and posting in their forums.

[Mack]

joo be soo negative all the time.

if you hate SE so much, why do you keep playing their games, and posting in their forums.

With all due respect with all you people who are blindly in love with SE, but there is something called brand loyalty, where you will follow a brand name to the death as if it was a prophet or a god without question...most of you are called irrational consumers, exactly the type of people the corporate world needs. That's why we have so much advertising on T.V., in magazines, in video games, on the internet, hell Youtube was even kidnapped and "corp-orated"...why? because these methods work. Sure plenty of people criticize SE on many things, but do you think they're here critiquing a game 7 months down the road because they hate SE? are you that blind and delusional? I'd rather listen to the rational harsh critics than the delusional zombie sheep any day, because the difference between the two is simple - the critic will always have two sides to a coin.