SQUARE-ENIX, remember not to marginalise crafters

[TonyMontana]

if they do what you are supporting and make crafting a side thing and take away the reason to level it there won't be many. remember you guys did just say you wouldn't mind if crafters quit. if all the pure crafters quit because of being made worthless how many other options besides the 4 i gave do you have?

edit: i was not talking about as things sit now. i was talking about if things are set forward to give no reason to craft as a job and it pushes crafters out of the game.

Almost every other game has crafting as a small on the side aspect and people still craft in those games.

[darkstarpoet1]

Almost every other game has crafting as a small on the side aspect and people still craft in those games.

but how many of them started them as a main job and had people grind for hours to level it up just to turn around and slap the ones that put the time into it afterwards?

[TonyMontana]

but how many of them started them as a main job and had people grind for hours to level it up just to turn around and slap the ones that put the time into it afterwards?

yeah but if they get rid of it now as a main job the 6 people left playing FFXIV as a crafter main can go ahead and quit or convert over to a fighting class all before the PS3'ers even start.

[darkstarpoet1]

yeah but if they get rid of it now as a main job the 6 people left playing FFXIV as a crafter main can go ahead and quit or convert over to a fighting class all before the PS3'ers even start.

6 crafters? you must be playing a completely different game than i am. i know many that got one battle to 50 and now only use that one class to farm mats for their crafts. you take that away from them after the hours spent and you will lose alot more than 6 per server.

[Kuroguma]

6 crafters? you must be playing a completely different game than i am. i know many that got one battle to 50 and now only use that one class to farm mats for their crafts. you take that away from them after the hours spent and you will lose alot more than 6 per server.

Are you saying that SE has never made a mistake? You are right the game is perfect as it is, Rift is a just a good rip off of wow and it is way more successful that FFXIV has ever been.

[darkstarpoet1]

Are you saying that SE has never made a mistake?

no se has made many mistakes. one of the biggest ones was trying to make a mmo for solo and casual play. it is massive miltiplayer not massive single player after all.

[Kuroguma]

no se has made many mistakes. one of the biggest ones was trying to make a mmo for solo and casual play. it is massive miltiplayer not massive single player after all.

The concept is not flawed, it's execution was.

[TonyMontana]

6 crafters? you must be playing a completely different game than i am. i know many that got one battle to 50 and now only use that one class to farm mats for their crafts. you take that away from them after the hours spent and you will lose alot more than 6 per server.

The 20-30k players still playing the game dont matter. PS3 players and any PC players generated by the PS3 launch are all that matters. SE should do whats best for their company and those new players. And yes this is coming from someone who is a current player and current crafter.

[darkstarpoet1]

The 20-30k players still playing the game dont matter. PS3 players and any PC players generated by the PS3 launch are all that matters. SE should do whats best for their company and those new players. And yes this is coming from someone who is a current player and current crafter.

the 20-30 left may not matter in the long run, but if they keep pushing this % away for this or that % away for that don't you think that same % of people of the upcoming ps3 base will be pushed away for the same reasons? the thing is at this point they should be making things to bring more people in and not pushing more out. that is good business.

[Kuroguma]

but how many of them started them as a main job and had people grind for hours to level it up just to turn around and slap the ones that put the time into it afterwards?

Those that made a huge mistake by making them classes in the first place. Next question please!