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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    I won't bother trying to guess or suggest any strategies. ^_^ Just keep trying. The key has to be there somewhere. Even if it is as you say, some hidden mechanic, it is as you say not so difficult up until that point (so far as we know) so at that point there has to be something there that will make that part of the encounter make sense.
    The encounter [seems to] makes perfect sense. The mechanics just don't always take sense into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    The encounter [seems to] makes perfect sense. The mechanics just don't always take sense into account.
    Don't assume that the randomness you keep trying to imply in all your responses/threads is anything to do with the encounter being random, but your members screwing up and saying "but on my screen" type remarks.

    The amount of QQ from you is starting to be absurd. Everyone on turn 5 knows the difficulties, but you just seem to bring it to the forums with a bunch of QQ followed with "I won't give you guys strats, yet I want to know how everyone else does the bomb phase" then "I can't believe other FCs even struggle to 50%", followed by implications that your FC would be world first if it wasn't for the RNG of the fight that doesn't exist if you know how to accurately execute strats.

    A fight requiring 110% =/ RNG.

    I will also assume you aren't a 1.0 player from your join date (maybe you are, maybe you aren't) and people still beat 1.0 content under non-ideal circumstances all the time. Being the elitest you seem to be, change your strats around these supposed non-ideal circumstances you keep ending up in.

    I'm not necessary saying you are wrong, but man it is getting annoying trying to keep up with supposed discussion of bahamuts coil and just see you respond for pages and pages of "This encounter sucks because I don't know how to deal with tornadoes so must be RNG and someone still dies to dive phase so must be RNG" remarks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Don't assume that the randomness you keep trying to imply in all your responses/threads is anything to do with the encounter being random, but your members screwing up and saying "but on my screen" type remarks.
    Let me guess, you havn't actually figured out twister yet?

    The only "randomness" I "keep trying to imply" has nothing to do with the encounter itself being random, but instead having to do with the mechanic being inherently and unpredictably broken. This is a great job of trying to put words into my mouth though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    The amount of QQ from you is starting to be absurd. Everyone on turn 5 knows the difficulties, but you just seem to bring it to the forums with a bunch of QQ followed with "I won't give you guys strats, yet I want to know how everyone else does the bomb phase"
    I believe you can see quite clearly where I stated I have zero interest in seeing other peoples strategies laid out for me, only confirmation that the mechanic was consistently avoidable through legitimate means (Which no-one was able to provide -- for the record)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    then "I can't believe other FCs even struggle to 50%", followed by implications that your FC would be world first if it wasn't for the RNG of the fight that doesn't exist if you know how to accurately execute strats.
    Once again, putting words in my mouth. Please, be my guest and point out where I say either of these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    A fight requiring 110% =/ RNG.
    You seem to have confused requiring 110% with not falling asleep at your keyboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    I will also assume you aren't a 1.0 player from your join date (maybe you are, maybe you aren't) and people still beat 1.0 content under non-ideal circumstances all the time. Being the elitest you seem to be, change your strats around these supposed non-ideal circumstances you keep ending up in.
    I am not a 1.0 player. You clearly do not have experience with the mechanics in question as it is not simply a matter of "change your strategy" due to non-ideal circumstances. Its a matter of "There is a clear and obvious solution to the mechanic, but it randomly does not work several times per attempt".

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    I'm not necessary saying you are wrong, but man it is getting annoying trying to keep up with supposed discussion of bahamuts coil and just see you respond for pages and pages of "This encounter sucks because I don't know how to deal with tornadoes so must be RNG and someone still dies to dive phase so must be RNG" remarks.
    I apologize that I have been "Discussing Binding Coil" in the "Binding Coil of Bahamut" discussion thread. My apologies forreal.
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    Last edited by Xilrasis; 10-04-2013 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Let me guess, you havn't actually figured out twister yet?
    Share pl0x, will give you lifetime supply of cookies <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanna View Post
    Share pl0x, will give you lifetime supply of cookies <3
    Step 1) Choose god of your choice.
    Step 2) Move out of shiny things.
    Step 3) Pray to your chosen god that the server thinks you actually moved.
    ....
    Step 4-infinity) Repeat until the stars align

    Step infinity+1) Profit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Step 1) Choose god of your choice.
    Step 2) Move out of shiny things.
    Step 3) Pray to your chosen god that the server thinks you actually moved.
    ....
    Step 4-infinity) Repeat until the stars align

    Step infinity+1) Profit
    Ok ty! As promised, here is a lifetime's supply of cookies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanna View Post
    How did I know you were going to link me to cookie clicker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilrasis View Post
    Let me guess, you havn't actually figured out twister yet?

    The only "randomness" I "keep trying to imply" has nothing to do with the encounter itself being random, but instead having to do with the mechanic being inherently and unpredictably broken. This is a great job of trying to put words into my mouth though.



    I believe you can see quite clearly where I stated I have zero interest in seeing other peoples strategies laid out for me, only confirmation that the mechanic was consistently avoidable through legitimate means (Which no-one was able to provide -- for the record)



    Once again, putting words in my mouth. Please, be my guest and point out where I say either of these things.



    You seem to have confused requiring 110% with not falling asleep at your keyboard.



    I am not a 1.0 player. You clearly do not have experience with the mechanics in question as it is not simply a matter of "change your strategy" due to non-ideal circumstances. Its a matter of "There is a clear and obvious solution to the mechanic, but it randomly does not work several times per attempt".



    I apologize that I have been "Discussing Binding Coil" in the "Binding Coil of Bahamut" discussion thread. My apologies forreal.
    It's blatantly obvious to anyone who spends any amount of time on these threads. Takes 1 click on your name and seeing your posts. No reason I need to quote 50 of your posts to prove a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    It's blatantly obvious to anyone who spends any amount of time on these threads. Takes 1 click on your name and seeing your posts. No reason I need to quote 50 of your posts to prove a point.
    Thank you. You just adequately proved that you did not have one. Move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Don't assume that the randomness you keep trying to imply in all your responses/threads is anything to do with the encounter being random, but your members screwing up and saying "but on my screen" type remarks.
    Xilrasis is not QQing as you put it without reason. Its not as simple as changing your strategy because there is no strategy to moving out of twisters. You either do or you don't. The delay we play with makes this portion of the encounter a RNG battle. One instance, you can move out easily. The other you somehow get hit despite repeating what you've done before. One or two instances of such are acceptable and could be chalked up to player error but 50%+ randomness makes no sense.
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