Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[dexta01204]

I say leave it as it is i like having to change class to gets the mats i need it makes you see more of the game.

[Sinbios]

In the terrible broken system being requested in this thread.. I wouldnt need to do that, I would dominate the market by pre-emptively OVER cutting the market and ensuring ONLY my ingots sell. If it cost 100 gil to make them, I only need to get 101 to be profitable. Thats cute you made 5 HQ Mythril ingots, I made 500 and would NEVER care about your measly 5. As is, your 5 would sell way better then my 99.. Yet we both will sell, my bulk for cheap, and your small stacks for "fair" prices.

So what? How is that terrible or broken? If you're happy spending 30 seconds making a HQ mythril ingot to earn 1 gil, and you are actually able to supply them in bulk, then maybe HQ mythril ingots are only worth 101 gil. That's how supply and demand works. Again, why does the system have to be purposefully made inefficient to create the opportunity for the other guy to sell his 5 HQ mythril ingots for more than 101 gil? Say he's able to sell the 5 stack for 1000 gil each. Where does the difference of 899 gil come from? Only from inefficiencies in the market, and not from the value of work done. Why should his time and effort in making those be rewarded more than yours?

I say leave it as it is i like having to change class to gets the mats i need it makes you see more of the game.

"I don't like using the market, therefore it should remain broken and horrible so other players can't use it either." I... just... what?

[Wulfies]

But we already have the option to sell a stack or individually, so I dont see why this needs any additional mechanics.

Can you please let me know how to sell my 31 Electrum ores, my 12 Raptor hides, and my 14 Cobalt ingots as individual pieces?

This I COULD do in 1.0 using 3 of my 16 (see with less spots, I am able to sell more than what I am able to in 2.0) avail slots on my retainer

I say leave it as it is i like having to change class to gets the mats i need it makes you see more of the game.

wha.....? You are being sarcastic right?

For the sake of argument, lets say you wanted this Wrapped Hawksbeak Hammer (link to the XIVDB and you can see what it takes to make this.)
Now, in order to make this I will need a 40+ botanist, 40+ miner, 45+ Blacksmith, 35+ Leatherworker, 41+ Alchemist, ?? Fisher (sorry have not leveled fisherman yet,) +some Dow/DoM high enough to kill the piggies. This isn't even the 1 star militia item that need min control/craftmanship to even attempt.

Now, I've done this, thankfully I had alot of the raw mats so it only took me about 10 mins of trying to HQ to the sub-mats and building the final product (75% chance to HQ and it didnt hq ) If I had to farm, this would have taken me about an hour or 2, most of that time woudl be spentin running around and not really "seeing more of the game," I am out trying to avoid monsters/getting killed.

[Felix7007]

Need option to sell stack only

[JWag12787]

If I want to sell it separately, I will list it separately.
If I want to sell you a stack, I will sell you a stack.

EX: I am selling 12 eggs. I don't plan to let you in the box of 12 to pick out how many you want and put it back. (This reference was mentioned earlier)
I am selling a box of 20 cookies. I don't plan to let you in the box to grab a few and put it back.
I am selling the whole stack of eggs/cookies.

If I post a stack of 100 shards, for example, I want that whole stack gone. Usually I'm nice and list smaller stacks with it, but they are usually at a higher price per unit (which is how it would be. Buy in bulk to save.)

[Felix7007]

If I want to sell it separately, I will list it separately.
If I want to sell you a stack, I will sell you a stack.

EX: I am selling 12 eggs. I don't plan to let you in the box of 12 to pick out how many you want and put it back. (This reference was mentioned earlier)
I am selling a box of 20 cookies. I don't plan to let you in the box to grab a few and put it back.
I am selling the whole stack of eggs/cookies.

If I post a stack of 100 shards, for example, I want that whole stack gone. Usually I'm nice and list smaller stacks with it, but they are usually at a higher price per unit (which is how it would be. Buy in bulk to save.)

Ok you go ahead and sell your 12 eggs, 20 cookies and 100 shards separately.... oh wait, you only have 40 retainer slots to sell with. What do you do now?

[bwalker36]

I'm a fan of just allowing the seller to Choose if he wants single items or not. I totally agree that buying in bulk should be cheaper but at the same time I can only list so many stacks of 5 or even individual. If I could chose to put up 99 ore in stack but allow people to buy them as individuals I could keep the premium on buying small amounts while not filling ever retainer slot with little items.

An option to allow singles to be bought from a stack at the choice of the seller does not have a huge impact (IMO) on current market workings aside from there most likely being more supply on the board since those selling individual can list more items. This will lower prices on smaller stacks but bulk selling should have little impact baring the spread between them is decent.

[Layenem]

When people are just trying to sell in bulk I simply /shout or join one of the crafting linkshells that will GLADLY sell individual amounts (or requested amounts) for much cheaper then the marketboard anyways. Not being able to buy individual is OLD! EQ1, EQ2, WoW, FFXI all do this and they are all a decade old. People who don't see an issue with this are simply ignoring it and trying to be greedy lol... I just circumvent the marketboard at that point and buy what I want OFF the boards, you can keep your stacks.

As a seller it's a pain in the ass because I KNOW people don't want to buy 1k crystals when I sell them, so I have to break that down in to 5 different stacks of 200 which is fine but when we're talking about items that are really only used for first combines you're talking about posting 2 and 3 at a time and that gets to be a major pain in the ass (especially with all the kids out there who undercut just because they want their item seen first lol... stupid kids)

[bwalker36]

Not being able to buy individual is OLD! EQ1, EQ2, WoW, FFXI all do this and they are all a decade old

WoW does not let you buy individual items from any stack. In order to buy and individual someone has to list a single item. Unless they changed this with 5.4 I have not played since then.

[JWag12787]

Ok you go ahead and sell your 12 eggs, 20 cookies and 100 shards separately.... oh wait, you only have 40 retainer slots to sell with. What do you do now?

I plan to.
If you don't want them, find someone who selling less per stack.
Seriously though. It's how the market works. If we don't want to sell them separate, then we aren't going to. It means we don't want to.
Like I said, I usually sell them in small enough stacks that they are smaller than the average. But I digress, as people will never be happy w/ a free market economy.


Felix: Thanks for proving my point.
I want to sell them in groups. This has nothing to do with the retainer slots.
If I want to sell them individually, I will, but I won't be selling them as fast.