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    Bizzybeast's Avatar
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    Bizzy Beast
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 46
    Quote Originally Posted by Psistorm04 View Post
    I would like to second the request. Just today on Zalera i needed some Aldgoat leather, and there was ONE person selling them. A stack of 41 pieces for a total of 12.300 gil. I can't afford prices like that, so not being able to buy units out of stacks really is ruining my progress here and just costing me WAY more money than I would need to spend otherwise.
    So yes, please fix this.
    Again someone uses fix, which would imply something is broken. Not buying from stacks IS WORKING AS INTENDED and IS NOT BROKEN. Sorry!


    In the above quoted, the person indicates the entire market should exist for them and only them. I need something, it should be available for me at only the price I want to pay and in the quanity I seek to buy in.

    This is a false assumption, this person needed Aldgoat when they needed it and couldnt afford to buy the only listing of 41. Good! Im sorry, but good. That means the market is ripe for others to farm Aldgoat and sell small amounts. This, and ONLY THIS, creates a healthy versatile market. If the 41 person could sell the stack, as singles, not even that would have been there. Leaving you with NO options and also leaving only the most ruthless of undercutters to rule the market.

    Now mind you, I am that ruthless person on my server. This WOULD not harm me, this would make me sell much much more, AND I wouldnt even have to super cut. For instance Mythril Ingots, stayed steady at 1k per an HQ ingot. I came in and sold a 99 stack (4-5 a day) at 444-777 per, depending on the lowest. If 5 were at 999, my 99 at 888, wont be as appealing, so I list then at 666 so they feel like a steal.

    In the terrible broken system being requested in this thread.. I wouldnt need to do that, I would dominate the market by pre-emptively OVER cutting the market and ensuring ONLY my ingots sell. If it cost 100 gil to make them, I only need to get 101 to be profitable. Thats cute you made 5 HQ Mythril ingots, I made 500 and would NEVER care about your measly 5. As is, your 5 would sell way better then my 99.. Yet we both will sell, my bulk for cheap, and your small stacks for "fair" prices.

    Since I dont need anymore gil, I seek to see a stable economy and not just more of advantage for the likes of me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfies View Post
    Bizzy - sorry I entered in an "L" into your name (was staring at the computer screen for far to long) Ok, we will keep the TP outta here, I don't want any bad puns.

    I am advocating that people have the OPTION to sell as stack OR individually.

    Bizzy - My point 2, in post #395, you pretty much answered with your post #401. Market saturation drives prices down.
    But we already have the option to sell a stack or individually, so I dont see why this needs any additional mechanics.
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    Last edited by Bizzybeast; 10-01-2013 at 04:28 PM.

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    Sinbios's Avatar
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    Sinfonica Valendia
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzybeast View Post
    In the terrible broken system being requested in this thread.. I wouldnt need to do that, I would dominate the market by pre-emptively OVER cutting the market and ensuring ONLY my ingots sell. If it cost 100 gil to make them, I only need to get 101 to be profitable. Thats cute you made 5 HQ Mythril ingots, I made 500 and would NEVER care about your measly 5. As is, your 5 would sell way better then my 99.. Yet we both will sell, my bulk for cheap, and your small stacks for "fair" prices.
    So what? How is that terrible or broken? If you're happy spending 30 seconds making a HQ mythril ingot to earn 1 gil, and you are actually able to supply them in bulk, then maybe HQ mythril ingots are only worth 101 gil. That's how supply and demand works. Again, why does the system have to be purposefully made inefficient to create the opportunity for the other guy to sell his 5 HQ mythril ingots for more than 101 gil? Say he's able to sell the 5 stack for 1000 gil each. Where does the difference of 899 gil come from? Only from inefficiencies in the market, and not from the value of work done. Why should his time and effort in making those be rewarded more than yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by dexta01204 View Post
    I say leave it as it is i like having to change class to gets the mats i need it makes you see more of the game.
    "I don't like using the market, therefore it should remain broken and horrible so other players can't use it either." I... just... what?
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    Last edited by Sinbios; 10-02-2013 at 01:40 AM.