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  1. #51
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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    These AK gear requirement posts make me chuckle a bit, do people really think that you need Darklight or a Primal weapon to clear it?
    not required, but if you have, will be nice because in the end, you ll need to do multi run for cap. And if you have a full pt and farm garuda until cap, is much better than do AK
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  2. #52
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    Suirieko's Avatar
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Lamia
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    not required, but if you have, will be nice because in the end, you ll need to do multi run for cap. And if you have a full pt and farm garuda until cap, is much better than do AK
    Yes, but people who have AK gears usually have limited experience with Garuda, and therefore, would be more efficient to farm AK than Garuda due the difficulty. Point is: It's pretty silly to require people to have DL/Relic when Amdapor keep is a bloody joke with Primal weapons and amdapor keep gears.

    I mean sure, to each their own, but it's not like a few extra minutes is going to kill anyone there. The other night i've seen a WHM with nothing but Amdapor Keep gears (or less) with Ifrit's staff do a hell a lot better than most White mages out there. I understand that having relic/darklight kind of "proves" (I use the word loosely) that you're a skilled player, but gears don't make a player....
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    Last edited by Suirieko; 10-03-2013 at 08:32 PM.
    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


  3. #53
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I think I would join CM as a healer, ask friendly if I can see the CS my first time or if I should leave.
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  4. #54
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    IF people would slow down and play with good tactics, they will realize those dungeons do not require anything bih. If others ca run it perfect with base gear, then perhaps the issue is the attitude you approach it with.
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    Last edited by kazaran; 10-03-2013 at 08:37 PM.

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    Rivienne Bertouaint
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    Conjurer Lv 36
    I don't understand this anger at people who aren't prepared or capable of a fight the first (few) times. If I had had that from other players early on I never would have made it through copperbell mines even. I am new to MMO's. This means, no matter how much research I do before hand, I will be moderately deadweight the first go round. Actually in my experience it takes me a good three to four successes (not counting failures) before I feel I am starting to pull my weight. I do get that general mechanics are "easy" to those who have played other games, and once I have them down I can usually agree. But being shut out and raged at for not knowing what to do because I have never done something before, is.. well. Ridiculous.

    When I first learned to drive I read every thing I could on the subject. I knew I was totally prepared. I watched other people do it. I aced every written test, and knew everything I needed to. And then first time parking I backed into a pole. It was months before most of the knowledge I had so diligently acquired was actually useful to me.

    Research is nice. But it is doesn't make you prepared.
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  6. #56
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    humorous how the elitism is also clueless. AK? FUll darklight? not even close. It's the precursor to rank up in GC fror level 50 items.
    If some of them would slow down and play with smart tactics, they wowuld realize how easy it is with standard AF.
    Unfortunately, the idea of wasting time completely horrifies them, and they are allergic to wasting times. We have to respect their allergies after all!
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


  7. #57
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    How bad are we getting as humans were people cannot even show kindness anymore let alone in a game designed to be about cooperative gameplay and banding together. now everything is just "me, me me, what i want, to hell with your needs/wants!"

    I am actually getting scared now, even games with online community are becoming social nightmares. people say "just find that good FC/freinds" well, for some of us that is quite difficult when trying to weed through the massive amount of bad eggs.

    The trouble is the balance, i don't want that happy go lucky player who loves to have fun but sucks horribly at the game and is wiping on normal ifrit for example. but i also don't want that pro gamer who has mad skills but the moment you display human error you will never hear the end of it. The latter of which is the most common.
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  8. #58
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    Unfortunately, the idea of wasting time completely horrifies them, and they are allergic to wasting times. We have to respect their allergies after all!
    To be fair to those players though. You need 5 months of AK runs for full AF2 and Relic +1 for 1 job. That is somewhat around 150 times in AK. Wouldn't you want to cut down the time spent in AK as much as possible? Or at least understand that some people want?

    Anyway, I have never been in a DF group that demands that sort of gear. Just seen shouts. Has anyone actually been in a DF group where they raged because someone didn't have relic + DL gear?
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  9. #59
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    Eisen Marduk
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I personally haven't gotten to end-game with my new character yet(still working on getting battle classes to 30), but I've been on countless dungeon runs in my playtime. I think I've had about 4 or 5 bad duty finder runs, usually due to PS3 players without keyboards.
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  10. #60
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    Alter Kerl
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Azazela View Post
    *Players screaming at other players freshly turned 50 for watching the cutscenes within Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium.

    Skip them and watch them at the Inn. I did that, didnt want to burden the people that were carrying me for the first time.
    Or, better option, tell anyone selfish enough to try to get you to skip the cutscenes on your first run to "gfy" and just watch the cutscenes.

    WHAMMO- half of FF14's problems solved in one fell swoop.

    It seems to me that the vast majority of issues in this game could be solved be people standing up to the little bully children in party chat who are scared cutscenes will cut out a precious 2.5 minutes of their lives. Every time I see someone complain about it, I just want to slap everyone involved.

    Every time anyone anyone demanded I skip the cutscenes, I laughed at them. Every run I had someone be told to skip the cutscenes, I told them specifically to watch it.

    Stand up for yourselves, people. It's not that hard, ESPECIALLY on the internet with a group of people you'll probably never see again.
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