iLevel 70 crafted gear ridiculously expensive

[Sinbios]

So everyone knows the mats required to craft 2 star gear is more expensive than just buying Darklight, but I haven't seen a comprehensive cost comparison. So here it is; items that are especially expensive compared to the Darklight gear for the slot are bolded, except the accessories which don't have comparable stats so may arguable be worth it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing

As you can see not only are most crafted items many times more expensive than the Darklight equivalent, it's not even consistent across the board and some classes get shafted especially hard. For example DRG have to pay 1875 more tombstones or 6x as much as the Darklight equivalent for the belt, and 2550 more tombstones or 4x as much for the Darklight equivalent for the pants. The total difference for the entire set is 7740 more tombstones over the Darklight set; assuming 1 CM run every 40 minutes, it takes 52 straight hours of grinding to make up the difference.

This severely hampers the usefulness of crafting classes in the end game; crafted gear for 2 to 6 times the cost of Darklight equivalents is just not viable, even if they can be materia melded which can cost almost as much as the gear itself depending on melding luck. Maybe if iLevel 90 gear didn't exist and melded iLevel 70 gear is BiS there would be some purpose to getting the best gear in the game, but as it is there's no point to grinding 7740 more philosophy tombs for the opportunity to meld gear that's slightly better than Darklight but still inferior to Allagan/AF+1.

Crafting and gathering are supposed to have major roles in this game, and it's part of what makes this game more interesting than other MMOs; SE, please give them a purpose in the end game.

[NefGP]

Agreed. I would further add that something needs to be done to address the scarcity of Tier IV materia. I can understand how the devs felt spirit bonding (at least by default) was too fast in the original game, but currently it's appallingly slow even when decked out with a full set of Spirit Bond gear & the FC buff. Add to that the fact that you may not even get the materia you want, it just kills all incentive to even try for HQ melded gear. You're far better off just grinding it out for +1 Relic Weapons and Armor.

[Laryndra]

Dont see what the complaint is.. I've had enough time to craft an entire gryphonskin set on Siren using nothing but the gil I made crafting.. Now when my monk gets 50 it'll have a complete set of ilv 70 gear waiting.


Edit: I only had to get every craft to 50, then spend weeks making gil for it.

[Aemun]

The complaint is the cost of the items is not consistent. Why does a darklight ring cost 375 and a crafted one cost 2250? What is the reasoning in having the crafted item take 6 times as much darklight while only being marginally better? Why do WHM crafted pants cost 3375 and WAR pants+boots only cost 1125? If there is a valid reason why doesn't the same pattern follow for the vendored gear?

The whole token system seems like it was hastily thrown together with disregard to the cost of items or the impact it would have upon crafting.

[NefGP]

Have you seen the cost of Coke?

[ShinigamiB06]

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im going to take a guess here, but the reason that the crafted armor is so much more expensive than the darklight is because, well, it can actually be sold...literally. when you buy the darklight armor, thats it. you and only you can use it. where as, the crafted gear you can trade and sell. that means that if for example, darklight armor could be sold like the crafted gear, I could sport FULL darklight armor without ever setting foot in one single dungeon. Hence, Darklight armor is only available to people who grind themselves, and thus "cheaper"

I really disagree with that tho. As a player that spends more time crafting that pve (dont judge me) it bugs me that this renders end game crafting useless. even worse that they make the items cost so much to make

possible solutions: either make the crafted gear be better than darklight armor (how i wish it true), or make make it so that end game crafted armor requires MUCH less ToP than it does now

[YanDere]

I know that crafted gear must be more expensive than DL, but do you even know how much does a HQ Vanya Robe of Healing unmelded cost?
800.000 gil.
Now tell me how many lifes I have to live to get that much gil.

[PiedPiper]

I know that crafted gear must be more expensive than DL, but do you even know how much does a HQ Vanya Robe of Healing unmelded cost?
800.000 gil.
Now tell me how many lifes I have to live to get that much gil.

Sell one titan win.

[YanDere]

Sell one titan win.

SE is banning players who sell Titan runs.

[Cenewulf]

SE is banning players who sell Titan runs.

uhm no they are banning people who are selling duped gil for real world currency.