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  1. #11
    Player
    YanDere's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/22
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    340
    Character
    Parry Lyndon
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 60
    SE is banning:
    - Gil spammers
    - Account hackers
    - Titan run sellers
    and other players, don't remember.
    (0)

  2. #12
    Player
    ShinigamiB06's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/15
    投稿
    172
    Character
    Shinigami Soul
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    木工師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:YanDere 投稿を閲覧
    I know that crafted gear must be more expensive than DL, but do you even know how much does a HQ Vanya Robe of Healing unmelded cost?
    800.000 gil.
    Now tell me how many lifes I have to live to get that much gil.
    Dude, im slightly a step up from "casual player". since release, taking 30 minutes a day to craft some items, i have managed to rack up over a million gil doing this. you can get that amount of money if you know what you are doing. and if you grind ToP, you can sell the items for over 80K. opportunities to make gil are there...you just arent seeing them.
    (0)

  3. #13
    Player
    Sinbios's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/04
    投稿
    62
    Character
    Sinfonica Valendia
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:ShinigamiB06 投稿を閲覧
    im going to take a guess here, but the reason that the crafted armor is so much more expensive than the darklight is because, well, it can actually be sold...literally. when you buy the darklight armor, thats it. you and only you can use it. where as, the crafted gear you can trade and sell. that means that if for example, darklight armor could be sold like the crafted gear, I could sport FULL darklight armor without ever setting foot in one single dungeon. Hence, Darklight armor is only available to people who grind themselves, and thus "cheaper"
    Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why the sets for DRG and BRD cost more than 3x as much as for PLD or WAR.
    (0)

  4. #14
    Player
    ShinigamiB06's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/15
    投稿
    172
    Character
    Shinigami Soul
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    木工師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Sinbios 投稿を閲覧
    Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why the sets for DRG and BRD cost more than 3x as much as for PLD or WAR.
    its the free market. those prices fluctuate a lot. one day some items are worth a lot, the next they are work close to nothing. it basically depends on demand and supply
    (0)

  5. #15
    Player
    NefGP's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/07/01
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    632
    Character
    Dante Goldenpaws
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    I'm pretty sure it has far less to do with "the market" and a lot more to do with the materials involved in crafting those pieces. As I said before, the price of Coke is outrageous and you need like 9 of it for a single piece.
    (1)

  6. #16
    Player
    Kyana's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/10
    Location
    Ul'dah
    投稿
    395
    Character
    Kyana Nekote
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    You need at least 9 of the endgame crafting materials for 1 item, but that number can go up to 27 depending on the item you want.
    27 Materials for 1 finished item is just too much.

    They should lower the number of endgame materials to a maximum of 9 for every part of armor and 4-5 for accessories.
    (2)

  7. #17
    Player
    Pentt's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/22
    投稿
    102
    Character
    Ara Hoshizora
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:YanDere 投稿を閲覧
    SE is banning:
    - Gil spammers
    - Account hackers
    No crap.

    Quote 引用元:YanDere 投稿を閲覧
    - Titan run sellers
    Citation needed.
    (0)

  8. #18
    Player
    Sinbios's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/04
    投稿
    62
    Character
    Sinfonica Valendia
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:ShinigamiB06 投稿を閲覧
    its the free market. those prices fluctuate a lot. one day some items are worth a lot, the next they are work close to nothing. it basically depends on demand and supply
    You didn't even look at the spreadsheet, did you? Those costs are in philo tombs. They're not purchased on the market.
    (1)

  9. #19
    Player
    gigi_frana's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/04
    投稿
    249
    Character
    Bauchelain Md
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Sinbios 投稿を閲覧
    You didn't even look at the spreadsheet, did you? Those costs are in philo tombs. They're not purchased on the market.
    One can buy Coke / Potash / Animal fat / etc from the AH.
    One can farm Phylo tomes and get the items, sell them / use them / pay a crafter / etc.

    Quote 引用元:ShinigamiB06 投稿を閲覧
    if you grind ToP, you can sell the items for over 80K.
    What`s ToP?
    (0)

  10. 2013/10/03 18:34

  11. #20
    Player
    Enfarious's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/06/15
    投稿
    704
    Character
    Elasandria Servion
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:ShinigamiB06 投稿を閲覧
    its the free market. those prices fluctuate a lot. one day some items are worth a lot, the next they are work close to nothing. it basically depends on demand and supply
    This was in regard to the cost in coke/potash/etc. not being equal, (i.e. legs for one job need 9 coke, while another set of legs takes 27 potash) which is broken, clearly. Recipes need to be adjusted to use equivalent amounts of materials so that the costs are the same (material wise) from piece to piece (i.e. a head for drg takes the same number of EG mats as a head for brd).

    Quote 引用元:gigi_frana 投稿を閲覧
    One can buy Coke / Potash / Animal fat / etc from the AH.
    One can farm Phylo tomes and get the items, sell them / use them / pay a crafter / etc.

    What`s ToP?
    The point isn't where they 'can' be purchased but rather how many need to be used for any given craft. A ring that costs 18 coke (2050 tomes) is absurd regardless of whether or not you can purchase the coke on the market, when placed side by side with a DL equiv that costs 375 even being meld-able doesn't make it worth the time/gil.
    ToP = Tomes of Philosophy

    They do need to 'adjust'/'normalize' the recipes, costing more is one thing, having costs that vary wildly from one class to another is something else entirely. Accessories that cost on the verge of absurdity makes me a sad panda.

    I crafted in 1.0 and was looking forward to doing it as my source of income to support my once lavish lifestyle. Sadly the recipes for endgame and speed leveling, which kills the early~midgame markets, have made it a real turn off.
    (4)

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