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  1. #11
    Player
    Etgar's Avatar
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    Maduin Jakkra
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Monk isn't as burst heavy as DRG, but they bring more to the party. As of now 1lm punch is useless on boss, but that might change. They have mantra, which is very helpful when heavy healing is needed.
    I pull thread off tanks as my when I do burst, even not so geared. Monk is tricky but it does get good when you know when to use moves and get better gear. Most combos go something like 400>360>500 and than auto attacks for 120-200 adds up in 6 secs, on top of dots and moves not part of your combo for burst.
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  2. #12
    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
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  3. #13
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    Miona Ayashi
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    What does the Monk get in return for such a difference in difficulty?

    As far as I am aware, the Monk isn't the best DPS and as far as melee DPS go, most people seem to favour Dragoons.

    Also, can someone explain to me why there isn't an ability, say on a 60s CD, that gives max Grease Lightning stacks. It's like having the setup of a DoT class that takes 16s to cast all his DoTs.
    They are the highest potential dps by far if you can manage them properly.
    and there is an ability called perfect balance which does this.
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  4. #14
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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ilJumperMT View Post
    lolol target dummy. find me a boss you have half that uptime. as long as bards exist in their current form, most other dps are garbage. just sayin'
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  5. #15
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    Neo Anderson
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    They are the highest potential dps by far if you can manage them properly.
    and there is an ability called perfect balance which does this.
    perfect balance is garbage too, from casting perfect balance to achieve lighting3, it took 7-8 sec. That is huge delay. Even with light3 monk DPS is still low. somehow monk crit hit not doing much Dmg. Some class may x5 x6 for crit hit, monk only x3. many monk skill is useless. Such as remove boss buff skill.
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  6. #16
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    Ashlae Lori
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    Adamantoise
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    perfect balance is garbage too, from casting perfect balance to achieve lighting3, it took 7-8 sec. That is huge delay. Even with light3 monk DPS is still low. somehow monk crit hit not doing much Dmg. Some class may x5 x6 for crit hit, monk only x3. many monk skill is useless. Such as remove boss buff skill.
    the amount of derp surrounding monks is astounding. i would love GL build up to be more on demand but honestly when my group chain pulls mobs in dungeons or goes straight to bosses i end up tanking the vast majority of the fight. monk dps is fine, its the player not the class, reroll brd if you want a dps that is faceroll and starts off strong but scales weaker. thank you and have a good day
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  7. #17
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    Crazy Diamond
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    no one gonna cares if the monk does very high single target dps, he lacks utility.

    Plus the fact that going 3 ranged 1 dragoon in the coil is the most preferred setup, drg wins hands down, due to the piercing debuff he can buff the bard, monk is the least class wanted in any endgame scenario, live with it.
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  8. #18
    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayded View Post
    lolol target dummy. find me a boss you have half that uptime. as long as bards exist in their current form, most other dps are garbage. just sayin'
    If you notice in that video you sit at side only, making monk easier then dragoon.
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  9. #19
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Do we need another thread on this? The "monks are weak" thread is enough, not to mention the discussion going on in "the monk temple" and the "melee roles are gimped" threads?

    Also, I disagree that monks are weak and I see no evidence that our damage is not where it needs to be.
    There's no reason to believe we're not balanced with the concept of GL3 falling off on occasion.
    I hope they don't improve the 'QoL' for monks outside of a few things. Mobility and a 3 second increase to GL3 at most.
    Also, I agree that mantra should either have a range increase or simply affect all party members.
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  10. #20
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    Crazy Diamond
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    the damage of the mnk is fine, it only offer that to be honest, no debuff/buff for the raid, and he don't outdamage so much the other class, worst dps class in the game atm imho.
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