"LFM Titan HM full DL" -.-

[Blazn]

I'm a LL gamer, that means I can easily handle a low geared situation.
It's not a coincidence if I lost Garuda HM on DF for three days and then got in a party with the same gear and won 6 times in a row without losing once.

ok being good at one game dont make you good in another if so id like to add when i was 12 i was good at pokemon so im a god in this game lol ok sarcasm is off now

also no its not a coincidence its just that you got carried 6 times in a row.

[YanDere]

ahh this guy made me laugh so hard weird that he dont have relic on his tank seeing as how "its so easy" he obviously has no idea about over heals and the MASS amounts of group heals used. Also you realise that healers get a skill to erase their aggro... wanna know why they have that.... cause they are so easily able to yank aggro from tanks. please think before posting again k thanks

For your information, I have never used Shroud of Saints against Titan, it's not needed. Use Medica only after jumping attack, don't use Regen and don't overheal. No lv50 whm would overheal.
And now shut up and aggro, it's not that difficult. Shroud of Saints is used only when the tank is terrible and lets Titan go to the healer.
Don't think healers are all idiots, we know our job and how to minimize enmity far better than you do.
And, last but not least, READ THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, you are just writing things that I explained clearly already.

[FinagleABagel]

First time PUG's should not be demanding full DL. It's a DPS check or an HP check - not really both. The HP check is for the stomps. The longer it takes to kill Titan, the more HP needed.

The community largely agrees that 3k is minimally acceptable, but 3.2k is far safer since it's an indication of better gear. Your DPS should be Ifrit weapon minimum - Garuda is better. With less you are being carried.

A few DL pieces (belt/boots/gloves) to supplement the AK ilevel 60 gear will get you to the safe zone of 3.2k HP. From there, it's simply a matter of proper play.

However, I'm quite sure the OP is misrepresenting his performance. Gear puts a hard cap on what you can achieve with skill. That said, the OP's hard cap is well under his claims. Yes, its possible to survive to the last phase but in order to beat Titan you will need significantly above average DPS....which means the OP gets carried. If everyone is going to contribute equally, you need to kick that gear up a notch.

[YanDere]

ok being good at one game dont make you good in another if so id like to add when i was 12 i was good at pokemon so im a god in this game lol ok sarcasm is off now

also no its not a coincidence its just that you got carried 6 times in a row.

Ha, funny.
Ok sarcasm is off now.
I'm really happy to be in another world than yours, it would suck to have you in a party.
You talk without knowing, you had trouble with Titan so you say Titan is very difficult.
Stop dreaming, for the FF standards Titan is easy as drinking a cup of afternoon tea.
It just need to avoid aoes and to have 3000 HP, 4500 for the tank.
Garuda is exactly the same as Titan, but Titan deals more damage.
THAT'S IT.

[YanDere]

First time PUG's should not be demanding full DL. It's a DPS check or an HP check - not really both. The HP check is for the stomps. The longer it takes to kill Titan, the more HP needed.

The community largely agrees that 3k is minimally acceptable, but 3.2k is far safer since it's an indication of better gear. Your DPS should be Ifrit weapon minimum - Garuda is better. With less you are being carried.

A few DL pieces (belt/boots/gloves) to supplement the AK ilevel 60 gear will get you to the safe zone of 3.2k HP. From there, it's simply a matter of proper play.

Well, this is maybe the first comment from someone who understands something.
For the weapon, I knew that a Madman's Whispering Rod wasn't enough so I got Garuda's, but full DL is just overgear.
I have my 3000 HP, and it's perfect. in the last phase, DL or not DL, if the battle is too long aoes deal even 4500 HP, so it's just a matter of dodge.

[FinagleABagel]

Over gear depends on what you are doing. I'm one of the healers in a FC that sells Titan HM runs. The expectation that we can still clear Titan with as few as 6 players. That means I'm sometimes facing a 9-stomper. The gear for that, pretty much demands AF2 and full DL - although I don't really feel that much pressure on my heals...so perhaps that's even overkill.

Anyway, it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. A simple post 8-stomp Titan kill should only have a hard 3.1k HP requirement with whatever gear it takes to get to that. Damage should be Ifrit min, with the majority of your DPS'ers rocking Garuda.

You should run with one SCH and one WHM. The SCH needs enough throughput and sustain to release WHM from 1-2 Medicas per rotation to extend the WHM sustain late into the battle. Stoneskin/Aldo will take Mountain Buster on the tank to maybe 1k.

[Sinth]

Whats the damn point. Even if you get carried through Titan in AK gear you're still going to need full DL to do BCoB. So why piss and moan about it? If you think Titan is a check...

[Ariyn]

Quite frequently I am 2nd or 3rd on threat as monk, especially in coil where long disconnects are fairly limited. Monks also aren't bottom of the dps ladder, other than that your post is correct regarding WHM threat.

My apologies to you both on the mnk comment if it stands to be correct. However I have been in groups with relic +1 MNKs consistently in coil and have yet to see them out of the bottom spot. They aren't bad just from my experience aren't in a good place. Personally I hope I am wrong. That's what I want to lvl next since I enjoy the fast paced combat

Ha, funny.
Ok sarcasm is off now.
I'm really happy to be in another world than yours, it would suck to have you in a party.
You talk without knowing, you had trouble with Titan so you say Titan is very difficult.
Stop dreaming, for the FF standards Titan is easy as drinking a cup of afternoon tea.
It just need to avoid aoes and to have 3000 HP, 4500 for the tank.
Garuda is exactly the same as Titan, but Titan deals more damage.
THAT'S IT.

In a perfect world you are correct. However, no raid group will ever be perfect. That tank with only 4500 HP misses a CD and was sitting at 90% hp for the Mountain Blaster and now he's a dead tank. Things happen and people will make mistakes, including you. So to say that you are flawless and never get hit by things is a flat out lie. Hell I've been standing behind him attacking before and went flying backwards from a landslide. Things happen and the game being server side makes latency horrid.

As I said, Titan can be done in as little as AK gear easily. But you won't find a pug for it. If you want to get it done in that gear you will have to put the group together. I wouldn't go if it was an AK geared group that's for sure.

[BlossomRose]

At the end of the day, Titan is the final step to obtain a purple ilvl80 weapon.

If your gear is averaging ilvl60 or lower, you're getting carried.

At least try to be averaging ilvl65. That's more than enough to be useful and not that hard to get. That basically comes down to being in full AK gear (green ilvl60) with your Ifrit or Garuda weapon, and a couple of pieces of DL.

Of course, averaging ilvl70 is preferable, since the content immediatly after Titan (Binding Coil) requires that ANYWAY. So why not make your life, and everyone else's, easier by not asking to be carried through content?

[Sinth]

At the end of the day, Titan is the final step to obtain a purple ilvl80 weapon.

If your gear is averaging ilvl60 or lower, you're getting carried.

At least try to be averaging ilvl65. That's more than enough to be useful and not that hard to get. That basically comes down to being in full AK gear (green ilvl60) with your Ifrit or Garuda weapon, and a couple of pieces of DL.

Of course, averaging ilvl70 is preferable, since the content immediatly after Titan (Binding Coil) requires that ANYWAY. So why not make your life, and everyone else's, easier by not asking to be carried through content?

B-b-but the grind is too hard. The grind is too long. I am too skilled.