FFXIV for New "Nintendo/Xbox"

[TheVedis]

FFXI is on the 360.

read more then just that 1 post and youll see more of how that happened explained

it wont happen again

[Kurokikaze]

Yo guys I got a great idea. How bout lets wait for the game to get fixed?

[SuzakuCMX]

read more then just that 1 post and youll see more of how that happened explained

it wont happen again

"FFXI was the exception"

That is not an explanation in the slightest.

[TheVedis]

"FFXI was the exception"

That is not an explanation in the slightest.

there was ALOT more said then that

and it was an exception, for the reasons listed in several places in this thread

[SuzakuCMX]

there was ALOT more said then that

and it was an exception, for the reasons listed in several places in this thread

It was a 7 page thread, even going through it will not change the fact that his statement was incorrect. Stop nitpicking, it's spamming the thread now.

[TheVedis]

It was a 7 page thread, even going through it will not change the fact that his statement was incorrect. Stop nitpicking, it's spamming the thread now.

im nitpicking?

lol the fact is that xbox doesnt do mmos purely cuz they want a cut of the profits for using their network
they made an exception for 11, and most other games that had plans to do it have canceled cuz they dont wanna pay microsoft for the rights to use xbox live to do it.
every other one who has caved, can only be played on xbox live, with other xbox liver players, no cross server compatibility with pc players

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Really? ok i name you a few

inventory Limitations
AH 7 sell limitations
Adding new models design Limitations
Mog House Expansion limitations

Go to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forum.php

and you see player asking for something and the dev say they can't do it and it because of the ps2 limitations lol

So yes console does mess up the game play for other once the said console reach it limits

That is all space, which in games is a non issue. No game has super space not even mmo. I've been playing games a long time and they are always limited to the tech it was made from. Plus they can't really have super techy games, no one would beable to play them for not affording a super computer. Why you think wow is so popular? it don't require a high end gaming system. I wish it was out for consule so I can play it. And this lap top isn't mine. So there are "rules" i must follow. Being in the kitchen is a rule.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

im nitpicking?

lol the fact is that xbox doesnt do mmos purely cuz they want a cut of the profits for using their network
they made an exception for 11, and most other games that had plans to do it have canceled cuz they dont wanna pay microsoft for the rights to use xbox live to do it.
every other one who has caved, can only be played on xbox live, with other xbox liver players, no cross server compatibility with pc players

I think they would allow pc cross platform due to xbl can hook up with pcs via media sharing (because MS owns windows.) It was more they want mmo on XBL gold not silver. FFXI was the exeption because XBL was newish. and they used it to get customers.

[kukurumei]

That was the point =)
It's not possible to play with CrossOver Games, so it's gonna be a problem. Just install a BootCamp with Windows 7 and you should be good for now.
I'm waiting the Mac version too, but having a BootCamp is really worth it.

Considering the specs, Most macs(spec wise) won't be able to play it...heck most pcs can't play it either. The requirements are still too tough for general off the shelf boxes even the macs(higher then normal pc) specs.

But realistically they'll need to port out of DX which is a no go for many game companies including ff14. Boot camp isn't an option for most mac owners, because it's booting into windows.

Back to new consoles...first they're gotta make sure FF14 can live long enough to expand...we're not exactly happy-go-lucky right now no matter what box it's running under.

[Cairdeas]

"FFXI was the exception"

That is not an explanation in the slightest.

FFXI was the exception because it used POL. POL was able to be housed inside XBL's intranet and allowed to tunnel into the XI servers. This let Square keep their servers in their own house and allow them full access to them in the case of maintainence and other issues. It also reduced the Hardware Overhead Costs of running the game on two seperate networks MS Intranet and SE Intranet. Because only the POL software was on MS's side and it had very little hardware impact.

Most other developers say "We'd love to have our MMO on the 360." but then they get to the architecture for the hardware and realize its completely ridiculous the rules MS forces on them.

1. The Players who connect Via XBL and the XBL360 can not play on the same servers as players on PSN and the PS3.
2. Players who connect via XBL can not have access to the outside internet.
3. Players who connect via XBL can not have the ability to circumvent XBL for connectivity.
4. The developer is responsible for the hardware costs of maintaining the server, but the server must be housed in a MS Datacenter to give it access to the XBL Intranet.
5. Updates have to be distributed in a specific format. Updates of a certain size must have a cost value associated purchasable through the Microsoft XBLA storefront.


POL Circumvents these rules as I understand it by the following.

1. The XBL POL Client only connects to XBL POL.
2. POL Doesn't give access to the internet, only internal FFXI content.
3. You have to be on XBL to access POL, (Silver)
4. POL Servers are inside the MS Intranet and tunnel to the XI servers.
5. None of the updates to XI are done on the XBL side of the client but the XI side of the client which is considered segregated.


Ultimately if XIV were to end up on the 360 it would be on POL which SE has already stated they no longer will support new games being developed to the platform.