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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    LOL! If you can hold hate with just flash and your gimpy aoe damage attack then your dds just plain don't know how to play, simple. (bit hard to 'just switch to mob they're on when they pull them away and run around out of 'voke range, but good on you, you must play with your friends and FC only I hope)

    I swear, people just don't know how to read, you're embarrassing yourself.



    I'm not the one that looks bad in that situation there buddy. You must be one of the ones that ignores marks and does what you want, good for you. Hope you run with your FC or LS, if not, have fun waiting.
    If we ever play together, I'll decide.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Anyone wonders why there's always a tank shortage? There you go!

    The only ignorance flying around here is DPS that think their role doesn't include threat management. Threat management isn't waiting a few seconds and then ignoring it. If DPS ever pulls and the tank isn't dead, the fault is entirely that DPS.
    this line of thinking if why there are so many entitled tanks out there, making threads like this.

    if any dps pulls off the tank for any reason, that was the tank's failing

    there's exactly one job in the game that can pull (when played poorly) off of a properly played tank, and here's a clue: it's not a dps

    any tank claiming to have a hard time holding mobs off of dps simply hasn't learned how to do their job correctly yet
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  3. #103
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    Overgeared DPS are used to better tanks. You are not a better tank. I think the rest is self-explanatory.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    See, this isn't want this thread is about. These players are doing the exact opposite of what you say, pulling off an mob I didn't mark (I use, and only should have to use, the 1 mark) [I]and running it away from me, trying to kite it while trying to kill it at the same time.
    so if im AOEing and i grab aggro then you need to learn how to AOE threat

    ie learn how to tank more then one mob silly
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcare View Post
    Good to know! Next time I tank I'll simply autoattack and blame the DPS when they pull.
    Dontcare +1... Tiraelina -1
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    this line of thinking if why there are so many entitled tanks out there, making threads like this.

    if any dps pulls off the tank for any reason, that was the tank's failing

    there's exactly one job in the game that can pull (when played poorly) off of a properly played tank, and here's a clue: it's not a dps

    any tank claiming to have a hard time holding mobs off of dps simply hasn't learned how to do their job correctly yet
    This is not WoW, while I agree it is the tanks job to hold threat, and I personally feel like I am failing when I lose it. Threat management is most definitely a group effort in this game. DPS need to know what to attack and when, just like your whms need to know when to use their shroud of saints on Titan.
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    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburn32 View Post
    What everyone should know.

    As a tank I don't care if you steal aggro from me. I consider it a fail on my part other than if you attack before I do, then that on you.

    If you want me to get the add off of you, you need to run to me not run away from me or in circles lol.

    I have this fancy move called cover, you know to stop you from taking damage?

    Anyway its a team effort. If your group wants to AoE spam, SAY IT IN CHAT! Atleast then everyone is on the same page.
    LOL thank you for that info, that's just what I did, run in circles AWAY from the tank. "The more you know[ding]"

    I have yet to participate in a speed run though where any kind of independent mob killing is expected from the dps or AOE without me asking first. I appreciate that this thread is about a different kind of instance than I have done... but still, your advice is useful to me.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
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    Thank you for your response. I just felt that it would get worse as we progressed, hopefully they got a tank that was able to cope.
    Screwing up a run for an innocent healer or dps, or both cause one makes mistakes? Hahaha, nice one. Way to make them sit in queue for another 30 minutes when they did nothing wrong, that'll teach 'em for.... being there. Also, It's pretty hard to screw up an AK run, the only real way you could is by repeatedly failing demon wall, not because of aggro issues on trash mobs.
    Same goes for any dungeon. Only way a run can be screwed up is if a tank fails to hold aggro on a boss, which in almost every case ONE mob. So all the blame for a screwed up run would be on you, as a tank, in that regard. If the healer is bad, that's another story.
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    Last edited by Chiruru53; 10-01-2013 at 07:20 AM.

  9. #109
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    Dear DPS,

    If you insist on trying to tank, have fun running back from the starting point as I'm here to run the instance properly, not save you from your own stupidity.
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    Player Risae's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Dear DPS,

    If you insist on trying to tank, have fun running back from the starting point as I'm here to run the instance properly, not save you from your own stupidity.
    Dear Tank,

    If you insist on wasting time, have fun getting blacklisted on every occasion as I'm here to run the instance fast, making everybody happy.
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