Attention Overgeared DPS in AK

[Amyas]

Tank pulls 3-6 mobs.
Everyone usually starts on #1.
BLM/SMN start their AE rotations - that's why you pulled so many right? If i'm rolling SMN, I'll do my full Dot stack on 1, move it to the rest, case my AE's, then start adding single dots to every other non-marked target as these will do more damage than me just spamming Ruin. By the time mob 4-6 are targeted by the tank they're usually down 1/2-3/5 hp. That's a Win.

That being said, if I see a trash mob on a healer and the tank isn't picking it up, I'll purposefully agro that thing and unload on it.

In this scenario I should have little to no trouble holding hate, been rolling with a smn buddy in AK quite a few times and never really had a problem on that. All I ask is that you start your dots on the marked one and wait to use bane til I have all mobs stacked on top of each other for maximum effect. I know how to tab through and put myself back on the top of the hate list for adds.

Attention undergeared tanks in AK: Run CM/WP 10 or so times before you run AK.

I actually had the full TWP set before I finished the story. Now I've got all AK gear with five pieces of Darklight and a Malignant Mog Axe. I'm not undergeared for AK, not in the slightest. (tank ring finally dropped last night ftfw!) Ah, I also like to rock my Behe helm in lieu of the hoplite circlet, just because. Shouldn't make me 'undergeared' though :P

EDIT: Your 'advice' is good for everyone, not just tanks.

You don't even need to mark... Enemies get ordered alphabetically when pulling, the one you "shield lob" first gets the the first letter and just ask DD to go by that.

Also, if the DD are indeed over geared enemies should die fast enough that pulling aggro for a second shouldn't be a problem. AK is so DD geared that every fight is a DPS check. Tanking is a joke in that place!

I know, its usually pretty zen for me because tanking can be soo lazy if you have a group that knows how you play. In this case though, the ones that pulled aggro weren't able to kill em fast enough for it to be worth doing it time-wise.

I can manage my threat just fine, but I'll be honest when I say that if I've waited 8 seconds for you to do a shield lob / tomahawk followed by a rage of halone or butchers block combo, and still pull aggro afterwards, I don't want you to tank for me. I run with PLD's and WAR's alike who can keep threat when I'm going all out. I'm mindful of tanks less geared than I am, but if I can't even do my rotation, there is a problem and it's not with me.

*comes to thread about bad dd players, proceeds to complain about bad tanks while defending badness on the dd's part*

-you

Stay classy.

But quitting a dungeon because one person is derping isn't exactly the right way to handle it either. And please don't call all DD's derps. We aren't. You will find them using DF but some of us steer clear of DF because of derp tank/healers as well.

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Thank you for your response. I just felt that it would get worse as we progressed, hopefully they got a tank that was able to cope.

[cfStatic]

*comes to thread about bad dd players, proceeds to complain about bad tanks while defending badness on the dd's part*

-you

Stay classy.

I'm not defending anyone but myself, being a DL geared MNK with relic +1. You directed this thread at "over geared" DPS. I think it's pretty safe to say that I probably over gear AK. If I wait a, imo, outrageous amount of time for you to do your butchers block combo, attack the one you marked, and I'm still having to stand around like an idiot because you can't get your shit together(on trash no less!) then the only "bad" around here is you.

[Chiruru53]

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Thank you for your response. I just felt that it would get worse as we progressed, hopefully they got a tank that was able to cope.

Screwing up a run for an innocent healer or dps, or both cause one makes mistakes? Hahaha, nice one. Way to make them sit in queue for another 30 minutes when they did nothing wrong, that'll teach 'em for.... being there. Also, It's pretty hard to screw up an AK run, the only real way you could is by repeatedly failing demon wall, not because of aggro issues on trash mobs.
Same goes for any dungeon. Only way a run can be screwed up is if a tank fails to hold aggro on a boss, which in almost every case ONE mob. So all the blame for a screwed up run would be on you, as a tank, in that regard. If the healer is bad, that's another story.