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    Also I like that he points out the flaws in others while he himself probably makes most the same mistakes. And roll a tank before talking about aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    Also I like that he points out the flaws in others while he himself probably makes most the same mistakes. And roll a tank before talking about aggro.
    Any tank who fails to hold titans aggro is officially a terrible player.

    Tank has an extremely easy job on titan... patheticly so.

    And yes TC, gear isnt a huge factor in the fight, competent people who can dodge all his stuff (almost everything he does is avoidable) is whats required.

    Fortunately ive never had this problem as i dont pug him, you should find a good FC.

    PS - sick of tanks acting like they have the hard job, I have a 50 paladin and its a mind numblingly easy class to play until atleast turn 2 of coils.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 10-01-2013 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    Any tank who fails to hold titans aggro is officially a terrible player.
    BZZZZZT WRONG.

    1. If DPS is stupid and frontloads, your tank is screwed. Give your tank a single rotation at least. THEN you're gold.
    2. If your white mage frontloads, your tank is also screwed. Overhealing (healing while at full HP) causes aggro. This includes heals over time. Any tank who has tried to pull a mob, or boss, just as the white mage casts Medica II knows EXACTLY what this is like. It is horrible, and it is almost impossible to recover from that aggro yank until the Medica II expires even with Provoke.

    So yes, it is possible that a BAD GROUP, or at least one bad person, can cause your tank to lose aggro on Titan, or any other mob or boss for that matter. Contrary to popular belief tanks do not have a button they can press to generate infinite aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlossomRose View Post
    BZZZZZT WRONG.

    1. If DPS is stupid and frontloads, your tank is screwed. Give your tank a single rotation at least. THEN you're gold.
    2. If your white mage frontloads, your tank is also screwed. Overhealing (healing while at full HP) causes aggro. This includes heals over time. Any tank who has tried to pull a mob, or boss, just as the white mage casts Medica II knows EXACTLY what this is like. It is horrible, and it is almost impossible to recover from that aggro yank until the Medica II expires even with Provoke.

    So yes, it is possible that a BAD GROUP, or at least one bad person, can cause your tank to lose aggro on Titan, or any other mob or boss for that matter. Contrary to popular belief tanks do not have a button they can press to generate infinite aggro.
    I wasnt aware we were talking about the "pull", what sort of idiot would go all out from the beggining?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    Any tank who fails to hold titans aggro is officially a terrible player.
    ahh this guy made me laugh so hard weird that he dont have relic on his tank seeing as how "its so easy" he obviously has no idea about over heals and the MASS amounts of group heals used. Also you realise that healers get a skill to erase their aggro... wanna know why they have that.... cause they are so easily able to yank aggro from tanks. please think before posting again k thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    ahh this guy made me laugh so hard weird that he dont have relic on his tank seeing as how "its so easy" he obviously has no idea about over heals and the MASS amounts of group heals used. Also you realise that healers get a skill to erase their aggro... wanna know why they have that.... cause they are so easily able to yank aggro from tanks. please think before posting again k thanks
    For your information, I have never used Shroud of Saints against Titan, it's not needed. Use Medica only after jumping attack, don't use Regen and don't overheal. No lv50 whm would overheal.
    And now shut up and aggro, it's not that difficult. Shroud of Saints is used only when the tank is terrible and lets Titan go to the healer.
    Don't think healers are all idiots, we know our job and how to minimize enmity far better than you do.
    And, last but not least, READ THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, you are just writing things that I explained clearly already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazn View Post
    ahh this guy made me laugh so hard weird that he dont have relic on his tank seeing as how "its so easy" he obviously has no idea about over heals and the MASS amounts of group heals used. Also you realise that healers get a skill to erase their aggro... wanna know why they have that.... cause they are so easily able to yank aggro from tanks. please think before posting again k thanks
    I believe i explained my statement in a later post, I no longer play paladin at all because its a boring class.

    And what i said was, as long as the team isnt rediculosuly getting hit all the time by aoe's aggro is not a problem, you cant blame tank if a healer is forced to heal way more than they should. You really need to stop getting upset.

    And i dont know where the relic comments from, getting a relic weapon is very very easy because i dont pug. I just have no reason to get it on anything other than my main class. And all this dosnt change the fact tanks have the easy jobs up until atleast coils turn 2.

    Warrior might be harder.... i have no experience with them, but paladin sure as hell is a joke easy class.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 10-02-2013 at 10:20 PM.